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Posted by artpar 23 hours ago

IBM Bob(bob.ibm.com)
272 points | 292 commentspage 2
TYPE_FASTER 18 hours ago|
Definitely gonna change Jira config to start estimating work in Bobcoins.
hermitShell 17 hours ago|
honestly that would still probably mean more than story points. maybe all this AI insanity has an upside that the new cargo cult washes out the old one.
absoluteunit1 21 hours ago||
The landing/marketing page for this looks like something someone promoted/vibe coded including the Bob mascot.

Looks awful from a design perspective. Had to double check that this was the actual IBM domain

petepete 5 hours ago||
> M.R. Williams is advancing its IBM i modernization strategy with new mobile solutions and accounting system improvements, while leveraging IBM Bob to quickly interpret older RPG code, automate documentation, and streamline development workflows.

This is exactly the kind of endorsement I’d expect to see from an IBM customer.

nadnad 20 hours ago|||
It's puzzling, considering they made some strides towards improving their design language and systems in past years, which produced IBM Plex etc. under Mike Abbink.

They have a decent component system with Carbon[0] and a whole design principles website[1] which they could have easily pointed their LLM of choice to.

Even the ibm.com landing page isn't close to the design system spec, rounded corners and whatnot...

[0] https://preview.carbondesignsystem.com/ [1] https://www.ibm.com/design/language/

AlexCoventry 13 hours ago||
As far as I can tell, IBM has mostly been putting out junk for twenty years.
a012 22 hours ago||
Nobody got fired for using IBM Bob
someguyiguess 22 hours ago||
Pretty sure a lot of people got fired over Microsoft Bob though
hn_throw2025 21 hours ago||
Well, you could say Melinda got a big promotion for a while.
archonis 13 hours ago|||
Nope, but they'll probably get laid off at some point to boost share price.
pestatije 21 hours ago|||
Nobody who got fired uses IBM Bob
glitchc 21 hours ago||
Can we say it's Bob's fault, though? Bob did it, not me.
a012 21 hours ago||
You can
crash-universe 17 hours ago||
Someone must have thought about this. PMs, Directors, lots of people involved in putting this together.

I wonder what their target customer is. They must have analyzed and projected this. I'm genuinely interested.

steve-atx-7600 17 hours ago||
There is so much business software out there and ecosystems that have evolved around it. Systems still running cobol on IBM mainframes; or, more "modern" stacks like Java apps running in IBM websphere. There are relatively small numbers of HN reading folk that went to some of the best CS programs and/or work(ed) at FANG caliber companies (whatever you call them now). The rest of the software engineer types are a diverse crowd and turning to IBM Bob might be more natural than some creepy looking orange starfish offering. That's my hypothesis anyway.
kitd 17 hours ago|||
A lot of IBM customers have moved to RH Openshift and running their java there.
throwitaway222 17 hours ago|||
And the solution to those businesses is not more IBM software, but Claude Code converting it to Go/Rust/Typescript in a few weeks.
steve-atx-7600 17 hours ago||
I have a feeling that if they already thought like that, they wouldn’t be using IBM legacy stacks in 2026.
kfarr 17 hours ago|||
I'm sure tons of companies have retainer spends with IBM for software, hardware, consulting, etc., and this is another way for their corporate clients to spend down / increase their retainers faster
cube00 12 hours ago|||
That IBM Z skill locked behind an "enterprise only" pay point would be a good starting point.
alchemism 11 hours ago||
See: Kiro by AWS
mvk666 21 hours ago||
I was at an IBM Bob party, behind the scenes it's basically other frontier models with an IBM-specific context.
robteix 16 hours ago||
It's been a while since Sonnet 4.5 could be considered frontier :D
ctenb 1 hour ago||
Where did you find that it is based on sonnet? While I wouldn't be surprised, I'm curious if that is disclosed somewhere
infamouscow 14 hours ago|||
IBM knows their customers very well, the additional context unlocks a lot of value.
aslkajdfklnlkwn 18 hours ago||
"frontier" is pretty load bearing there, I think it tops out at sonnet 4.5?
mansilladev 14 hours ago||
Ask the AI chat agent on the website what a BobCoin is. Because, I really want to know.

> I’m not able to find a definition for BobCoin in IBM’s content. If you have another term or topic you’d like to explore, let me know!

dudeWithAMood 10 hours ago|
The memes write themselves
cube00 12 hours ago||
> Bobcoins are the consumption-based billing metric used for Bob subscriptions. They provide a transparent, predictable way to measure and bill for your Bob usage. Each action you take in Bob—such as generating code, reading files, or running commands—consumes a certain number of Bobcoins based on the computational resources required.

transparent, predictable ... "a certain number of Bobcoins" ... so not that transparent then?

alchemism 11 hours ago||
They took a page from AWS on whatever the hell a Kiro token is supposed to represent.
Bombthecat 5 hours ago||
Nope, not predictable at all.

Because they auto route still your requests, you never know if something costs one coin or a tenth of a coin

throwfaraway135 21 hours ago||
Working with any AI tool means you trust the vendor, sometimes you don't have a choice because the best models/tools are from specific providers. IBM isn't a company I would ever trust.
herodoturtle 21 hours ago|
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wejick 4 hours ago||
VScode is so much similar with Eclipse IDE back around 2010s. 7 out of 10 IDE was based on it, and their look and feel awere kinda similar.
butterisgood 21 hours ago|
The last product I know of named Bob didn’t fare so well.
acomjean 18 hours ago||
"Bob" is also the most difficult to listen to Primus song.

Probably by design considering the songs subject matter.

jmward01 21 hours ago||
Clippy came out of that....
Throudin 21 hours ago||
And Rover!
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