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Posted by iopapa 13 hours ago

Can AI design circuit boards yet?(eebench.org)
248 points | 148 commentspage 5
conorcleary 10 hours ago|
It's going to tell us that boards are inefficient and to start different
NotThereYet 5 hours ago||
No because text models can’t spatially design and image models can’t spell
joshka 11 hours ago||
Astra seems generally available now in codex at least - got any updates on this?
saejox 12 hours ago||
Someone will create a self replicating robot factory soon.

All robots designed by robots.

Likely a crazy youtuber first

vessenes 11 hours ago|
It’s already running in Hawthorne, CA
goosethe 12 hours ago||
the answer is a resounding yes: https://github.com/seanwevans/pynq_butterfly
throwaway219450 12 hours ago||
For stuff like this, definitely. It’s already exciting. Claude et al are surprisingly competent with real hardware. I’ve also had good success debugging basic issues with micros - not via the debugger, but giving datasheet and written analysis. I’m sure it could do things like capture from a connected oscilloscope (Salaeae have an MCP integration for their logic tools). Also for SPICE which I never bother with because the tools always felt stuck in the 90s, but having some serious automated analog review would be nice. I’m really excited to play with peripherals like the RP2040 or Beaglebone real time logic blocks, or improving/adding real USB support instead of USB serial.

For circuits I would trust a netlist or DRC/ERC review, checking a design against reference circuit values, probably not placement as that tends to be guided straight from a datasheet where it makes a difference and I like the artistic side of it.

cozzyd 12 hours ago||
that's FPGA firmware isn't it?
johnboiles 11 hours ago||
Yes. I just made one with Fusion and Codex.
ChrisMarshallNY 12 hours ago||
Interesting. AI may be pretty good at managing the gazillion different things that make up circuit boards.

Frankly, I am surprised that it isn't already a solved problem, as we've had silicon compilers, for many years, and I always figured that IC design is more difficult than PCB.

hdhdbdbdxk 12 hours ago||
Digital silicon design is fairly simple in principle. It's hard because there are billions of transistors to route

PCB design on the other hand more often then not has outside constrains like mechanical, thermal an RF design

napowderly 12 hours ago||
I think the amount of reuse is a big difference. IC tools build on characterized cells with a lot of the rules already encoded. With PCBs, even when you're reusing a reference circuit, you're often manually carrying over the constraints and figuring out which layout decisions mattered. A lot of the engineering gets repeated rather than traveling with the design. That's something we're trying to improve with atopile.
Anil0809 12 hours ago||
Yes — this is already possible to a useful degree. I’ve been using tscircuit, where you can describe circuits in code and use AI agents to generate and iterate on schematics and PCB layouts. I’ve seen designs from this workflow go all the way to fabricated, working hardware.
CamperBob2 12 hours ago|
Works very well with EAGLE XML files, especially if you give it the EAGLE.DTD schema that CadSoft provides. Both .sch and .brd files can be extensively manipulated by Claude (and likely everybody else at this point.)
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