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Posted by zplizzi 10 hours ago

Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone(cloudinabottle.org)
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skybrian 9 hours ago|
This pitch is somewhat interesting, but, much like Sandstorm, browsing the library of pre-built apps kind of leaves me cold. It's too much like browsing a rather tiny mobile app store. There are maybe three apps that I might be interested in.

Since we have AI now, I think exe.dev's pitch is better: they provide Linux VMs, a web proxy, and integrations. You can ask the AI to build whatever web app you like. I'd love to have exe.dev, but running on my Mac Mini.

dbmikus 9 hours ago||
> I'd love to have exe.dev, but running on my Mac Mini.

I'm working on exactly this bit (with some more tuning for messaging AI agents)

https://github.com/gofixpoint/amika

Doesn't run on your Mac Mini yet, but should get that enabled either this week or next

If you sign up (free) I'll send you an email when the "Mac Mini mode + full OSS self-hosting" is live

prologic 4 hours ago|||
What apps were you looking for that you wouldn't find in the catalog?
imtringued 2 hours ago||
Wouldn't it make more sense to just ask AI to generate the cloud in a bottle files for the apps that are missing from the library?
redrix 9 hours ago||
If this can largely automate the backup and update side of things, then it seems like a great middle ground for people like me:

I’m trying to self-host as much of my stuff as possible, but don’t have time to tinker like I used to. Hence updates, backups (etc) fall by the wayside in favour of “set and forget”.

gitowiec 1 hour ago||
App catalog looks good, but they miss Home Assistant which is a major inconvenience
klntsky 4 hours ago||
There is a bit more mature project that does the same: https://selfprivacy.org
cheema33 4 hours ago||
selfprivacy appears to be limited to a handful of services. e.g. It is not clear to me if I can host postgresql with it. i.e. It is not a general purpose container hosting product.
utopiah 4 hours ago||
Nice, and it's even supported by NLNet
nepthar 6 hours ago||
I have been working on literally this exact project for the past 6 months, down to the nomenclature used. Running into this on HN is… strange.
yoz-y 6 hours ago|
Happens. Had an idea (simple and stupid one), built it (with LLMs) went to register the domain. Found out somebody had the same idea and already put it there :)
smalltorch 6 hours ago||
I've had this happen as well. Same exact name, and concept and highly specific application. It was extreamly niche too.
stiray 2 hours ago||
Found this and never looked anywhere after: https://github.com/opencloud-eu/opencloud

golang.

aperrien 6 hours ago||
I'm trying to understand the difference between this project and FreedomBox. I mean it's great to have options, but have any of them looked over that way? Heck, FreedomBox is even built into Debian now.
silver92bullet 6 hours ago||
Now the key question, can the hardware be made accessible to everyone. Its definitely an improvement to make self hosting software easier but the process of setting even a raspberry pi for an average consumer interested in self hosting is still a barrier. They probably will be able to figure it out via youtube and some reddit posts but there should be an easier process or way
zplizzi 6 hours ago|
(author here) I am really excited to make pre-configured Raspberry Pis that people can just plug in at home, and have it work out of the box. It'll take a bit more work to make it seamless but we're definitely aiming in that direction. It's a shame how expensive Pis have gotten recently though with the memory shortage.
silver92bullet 4 hours ago||
That is cool to hear. I know lots of folks who would be genuinely interested in this who don't have the technological chops to set up a self hosted system. One angle i have heard is degoogling and having more privacy in their data. I am really genuinely interested in this venture. I had the same idea about a year ago but was not in a place in life to act on it. I think even with the PIs being expensive because of the people will still buy them. Especially if they are seamless or near seamless.
gpiechnik2 1 hour ago||
i dont think i understand the idea of cloud in a bottle - it seems like overthinking to me
passive 9 hours ago|
I really like the idea, and I would like to see Tailscale evolve Aperture in this direction. Tailscale is already an easy way for anyone to connect their devices, which is essential for any sort of "personal cloud", and Aperture, while initially something of an AI gateway, is also facilitating connections to other services and apps.

If you're building a personal cloud, you also want your AI connected to it, but probably with some degree of management. Aperture already provides a fair amount in this area, and probably with a connector for Cloud in a Bottle, could give your AI safe access.

hebetude 9 hours ago|
Yep, tailscale, sync things. Glued together a lot of services
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