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Posted by zplizzi 12 hours ago

Cloud in a Bottle: making self-hosting accessible to everyone(cloudinabottle.org)
437 points | 212 commentspage 4
Winfred-zz 11 hours ago|
>At the core, it's just an Ubuntu machine with a web server that hosts a dashboard and routes HTTP(s) requests to containerized apps.

So no fail over/redundancy? I think at minimum it should be two machines, so one can break. That is one of the important features of cloud applications as far as I'm concerned.

You don't have to deal with the problem of a single computer breaking.

praseodym 11 hours ago||
This also adds a lot of moving parts and failure modes. For self-hosting I’d rather have downtime on a simple system that’s easy to fix rather than a complex setup that stays up but needs more maintenance when some component fails.
wiether 4 hours ago|||

  > So no fail over/redundancy? I think at minimum it should be two machines, so one can break.
Do you have two instances of everything in your life?

It's clear this product is intended for personal use.

I guess you have a couch in your home. This couch can seat friends/family. Yet you don't have a spare one?

ball_of_lint 8 hours ago||
As soon as you add multiple instances you have to consider concurrency for every app you add, which is a huge cost on the app development side.
crossroadsguy 7 hours ago||
> making self-hosting accessible to everyone

This happens with making many small to medium level resource hungary apps, for personal usage, run on one VPS which is not a heady duty machine costing heavy duty money. I have tried this on similar machines 2GB RAM and 1-2 VCPU and after 2-3 apps it starts swaying like a drunkard in slow motion even in that SSH session. But at least this one seems to be better than something like PikaPods, in combo pricing regard (I am not saying one is generally better over the other), where the pricing is rather per app.

28304283409234 3 hours ago||
> Rent a box from whoever you like, and turn it into your own personal cloud.

Yeah, that’s not what cloud computing is.

samhclark 8 hours ago||
This is neat! I've been building something very similar for personal use. I may lift a little bit of the app manifest part.

I'm a little surprised that there's just one backup app, instead of each app coming with its own backup sidecar. To backup Immich, for instance, requires coordinating between its four different programs. I guess I'll read more about how that backup app works too ha

m-p-3 8 hours ago||
> nextcloud: slow and unreliable, and more enterprise-targeted now

bewcloud could be a lean alternative for home users if that's something you'd like to offer.

epihelix 8 hours ago|
Has anyone else found NextCloud to be slow and unreliable? I've been using it for the last three years (switching over from OwnCloud before that), and it's never missed a beat. Straightforward to set up, decent linux desktop clients, has mobile support that's also been rock-solid, and basically does what it says on the tin. Doesn't feel remotely enterprise targeted to me either -- it feels very much targeted towards home users.
claytongulick 6 hours ago||
Thanks for bringing this up, I was going to ask the same.

I haven't heard any complaints about NextCloud, they've added some enterprise features, but all in a positive way, from what I can tell, not detracting from home and personal use.

chicagobuss 6 hours ago||
I'm confused, isn't a self-hosted cloud something like openstack or kubernetes?
wiether 4 hours ago|
Like the real ones, digital clouds can take many shapes.

Sometimes it means "rented virtual resources", sometimes it means "stack of intertwined services", sometimes it means "SaaS", sometimes it means "alternatives to SaaS"...

Here it seems to be the latter.

pjmlp 4 hours ago||
Basically what we were already doing before Cloud took over distributed computing and grid computing as industry terms, Open Stack and a few others.
ashrodan 5 hours ago||
I've been really enjoying exe.dev

Instant spin ups and restarts

Easy interfaces ssh web cli AI agent

Integration aplenty

pietz 11 hours ago||
In case someone is asking: THIS is what a launch article should be like. 10/10.
thelastgallon 7 hours ago|
We need gmail, docs and sheets replacements. With AI, maybe people can develop solid alternatives very quickly. And Linux phones.

Trillion dollar companies try to extract more and more from us, the only response is for us to develop alternative solutions and continuously chip away at their strengths- what made them monopolies in the first place.

smalltorch 7 hours ago||
Hey cool sounds like everyone's on the same page. Here is a start.

https://gitlab.com/here_forawhile/tmailplus

xetifafa 5 hours ago||
I haven't used it extensively, but I've heard cryptpad is good.
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