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Posted by zImPatrick 18 hours ago

Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice(github.com)
https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

https://xcancel.com/cdclegal

https://nitter.net/

https://xcancel.com/

766 points | 337 commentspage 4
latchkey 15 hours ago|
Looking at their crypto addresses, they are sitting on many thousands of dollars that haven't moved in a very long time. What's the point of donating if they aren't going to use the funds?
amazingamazing 16 hours ago||
Why do people feel the need to go to X so strongly? What am I missing? I don't use nitter or X
mitxela 12 hours ago||
Nitter doesn't let you post to X. It only lets you read when someone else posted something on X and then it hits a place like Hacker News. It's an adversarial interoperability tool.
dijit 16 hours ago|||
Network effects are really powerful.

Same reason at least one person in your company has a windows machine with a copy of excel, even though its a locked in platform which is paid and opaque: its what everyone else uses.

OroPla 15 hours ago||
That doesn't really explain why people went there, only why they stay. I remember back in 2006 when Twitter was new and I still couldn't figure out why anyone wanted to use it. So I never did, to this day.
dijit 6 hours ago||
i signed up because everyone was there… therefore i also likely reinforced that feeling in others too.
kevinfiol 15 hours ago|||
Because important information or information I care about is at times exclusively posted on Twitter, like news from my local municipality. I am not a Twitter/X user, so having Nitter as an option is important to me.
ronsor 15 hours ago|||
Because unfortunately people still post things on X that I find relevant, even if I don't use the platform much, and pragmatism wins over pure principles.
afavour 15 hours ago|||
A surprising number of official bodies use it (and only it) for realtime updates. e.g. for a very long time the only way to get the latest updates on the NYC subway was to follow their account on there.

More broadly, it’s a platform where prominent people say noteworthy things. I don’t think it’s surprising people want to read it.

8cvor6j844qw_d6 15 hours ago|||
Sometimes it's hard to avoid.

One small service provider I use updates its X/Facebook status much faster than its official status page during outages. There can be a gap of a few hours.

kimos 15 hours ago|||
Links mostly. To organization or government agencies or whatever official that shares updates only in one place. (Which is bad)
dirasieb 10 hours ago|||
because sometimes someone links something written there and people want to read it, it's not that complicated
CensorshipSux 15 hours ago||
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AngryData 10 hours ago|||
I left reddit a few years ago now specifically because of the confederated moderators pushing their own censorship.
codechicago277 10 hours ago||||
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ElonJet

Turns out only one of the major platforms banned this account…

mitxela 12 hours ago||||
X doesn't let people share their opinions and are very ban happy, too.
swed420 14 hours ago|||
> The masses will never use HN

That's a feature I'm thankful for.

> they are control freaks over speech - they don’t let people share their opinions and they are too ban happy.

I constantly shit on capital interests here, and am thrilled they tolerate it considering what YC does as a company. This place has extremely fair moderation compared to basically all other platforms, including X (don't forget about rampant dark patterns).

> A guy like Dang will never make anything people want because he gets off too much on shutting people down.

I don't know him, but that seems absurd based on all posts I've seen by him. Also, if you want something so bad, build it yourself or stfu.

amazingamazing 16 hours ago||
Why do people feel the need to go to X so strongly? What am I missing? I don't use nitter or X
KennyBlanken 15 hours ago|
Because despite the fact that they're both free and cost nothing to use, a lot of government agencies, companies, and press refuse to use or crosspost to Mastodon or Bluesky.

Literally the only cost is setting up an IFTTT workflow or a script, or having an AI agent do it for you, etc.

People will complain, in the same sentence, that bsky/mastodon will dilute their follower count and interactions, and "nobody uses it."

small_model 3 hours ago||
Well it's true, these clones were attempts to cash in on the left wing Elon manufactured hate, nitter and xcancel are similar.
shevy-java 16 hours ago||
Total defeat of Elon "I have too much money" Musk.

Now we need an alternative that works well and is de-centralized from the get go.

mitxela 12 hours ago||
It's called a website
sanskritical 15 hours ago|||
> Now we need an alternative that works well and is de-centralized from the get go.

It's called Nostr. I post on it every day.

Vaslo 2 hours ago||
Who?
andersonpico 15 hours ago||
isn't nitter decentralized?
jauntywundrkind 17 hours ago||
I'm so here for an age where some of this IP protectionism felony anti-circumvention nonsense gets absolutely bulldozed. Please please please.

It's entirely unacceptable, is suicidal corporatism to riff off the bad man, to have humanity's "public" messaging system be off limits to researchers, academics, observers. To trust a network at their word that they and they alone have a right to defend and protect us from propaganda, from malicious & shadow influence. This is not an ok basis that our information driven civilization can rest on.

I look forward to getting out of this trap. https://bsky.app/profile/jauntywunderkind.bsky.social/post/3...

colesantiago 17 hours ago||
This is great news!

Lawsuits and cease and desists should never exist for software. I've just seen 10 more instances go live, you can't just go and sue everyone in the world.

It makes no sense to do this to an OSS community project just trying to provide information for free.

I hope as a society we stop censoring projects by using shallow and evil tactics like this.

KennyBlanken 15 hours ago|
I find it hilarious that the world's richest man, who:

- refuses to speak to the press and lies about having a PR department, but still expects the press to cover everything his companies do

- is ignoring environmental regulations wholesale and literally poisoning tens to hundreds of thousands of people with very high NOx emissions, for which there is a great deal of high quality evidence showing causes significant health issues

- knew his giant rocket test would send debris miles, which caused extensive damage to wildlife near the launchpad and substantial private property damage...but he wanted to launch on 4/20

- runs a car company which was caught speeding up the odometers on cars nearing their end of warranty, purposefully either erases logs from its cars involved in crashes or lies to investigators and in court about whether logs exist/are retrievable, and has blamed its customers for car windows randomly shattering, drive units being destroyed by water ingress due to faulty seals (literally telling people they drove in too heavy a rainstorm)...not to mention currently have a significant problem with their suspensions failing, something that is wildly dangerous and just generally does not happen...not to mention being top per vehicle in deaths, fires, crashes...

- felt entitled to get his hands on nearly every kind of personal data the government has

- produces AI tools that have been repeatedly found to have some of the worst safety limitations on deepfake porn, and also sexual imagery involving minors

- set records for the largest number of complaints at numerous federal regulators and at one point his companies combined were under investigation by ~30 different federal regulatory agencies

- literally paid people to vote for his preferred candidate, because....see prior point

...throws such a major wobbly over nearly anyone doing anything he doesn't like "to" him.