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Posted by dmitrygr 6 hours ago

TiVo to charge money for skipping commercials in your own recordings(cordcuttersnews.com)
72 points | 40 commentspage 2
reedf1 4 hours ago|
Reads like an onion article. I've gone to great lengths to avoid ads - but it's a war I am losing. Content is now interleaved with ads at the creative stage in subtle (and not so subtle) ways, this inexorable convolution occurs even on formerly alternative spaces. Let me pay, I want to pay, I'll pay a lot, just stay out of my fucking head.
Leonard_of_Q 3 hours ago||
> I've gone to great lengths to avoid ads - but it's a war I am losing. Content is now interleaved with ads at the creative stage...

In the end you'll win this war, maybe not in the way you envisioned but win it you will by avoiding 'content' altogether. There is more than enough to read, listen to, see and do that you don't need 'content' to keep you satisfied. Drop it like the lukewarm turd it is and you'll be better off while they can hide their ads where the sun don't shine.

Source: living ad- and 'content'-free for decades

dudisubekti 1 hour ago|||
I agree. Most of the life-changing content I've consumed has been either freely available (in the public domain or online) or a one-time-purchase, ad-free book.
Leonard_of_Q 51 minutes ago||
You didn't "consume" that "content", that's newspeak which we'd all be better off without. You read books, listened to music, saw movies, plays, etc. You didn't "consume" them either, they're still there after all? You're not a "content consumer" but a person, an individual who reads, listens, sees, experiences.
itake 2 hours ago||||
must be nice...

On iOS, I see ads for paying for iCloud.

Entering my own apartment, the elevator has ads blasting on the tv.

Wont even start on Windows or web browsers.

Leonard_of_Q 58 minutes ago||
> On iOS..

There's your problem, you rented a terminal managed by the fruit factory so they get to decide who the thing serves. Either "jailbreak" the thing or get a Google-free Android device with an AOSP-derived distribution on it. I have the latter and I don't see any ads.

Windows... same thing. Avoid it if you can and yes, you can unless your employer forces it upon you. In that case see if you can use the LTSP version since that isn't as laden with spy- and adware as the regular versions.

Browsers? Firefox or one of its derivatives help to get rid of ads and other nuisances. I don't see any ads on either mobile or X-top, they don't seem to make it through the combination of network, host and application-level filtering. Those filters just work without needing maintenance, you just need to put them in place.

As to that elevator blasting ads you're more or less on the same situation. The only way to avoid that would be to make sure you manage your own environment. Doing so is much more involving than changing from a fruit phone to something under your own control. I live on a farm in the Swedish countryside where ads just don't seem to thrive, I understand this isn't for everyone but if you're serious in wanting to escape there'll be something similar available in whatever country you call your own.

sublinear 2 hours ago||||
I think back on when I consumed the most "content". It was way back before I worked from home. The peer pressure was a significant part of why.

I agree with you otherwise, though.

metalman 2 hours ago|||
I'll add that much of the 'content' is very carefully designed to be the canvas for the advertisements. ie: the content reaferms your demographic/cultural afinity and opens you up to suggestions that are attached even oblicquely, rather than persuing an interest of your own that actualy benifits you. By watching media alone instead of it bieng a group outing you give up even the real cultural reafermation of dragging or bieng drug along by friends where doing the thing together is of more interest than the media, unless on the rare occasion when you get to see something world class that you all take with you. These glowing slabs, aint that. Beware, Beware the glare.
saturn8601 3 hours ago|||
Just in case you don't know the SponsorBlock extension can skip past Youtube interleaved ads, promotional items other time wasters. You can pick and choose what you want to skip and in the Youtube Interface you can also press a button to automatically go past a skipped item you wanted to see. [1]:https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Also hate clickbait title cards? Theres now an extension to remove those as well: https://dearrow.ajay.app/

This SponsorBlock extension also integrates with yt-dlp so downloaded videos can have ads stripped in the final video. That way you don't even have to ever go to youtube itself. The war isn't over yet and people must keep fighting back.

fercircularbuf 3 hours ago|||
Yeah, I pay for youtube so I don't have to watch ads, but then youtube creators at some point all decided to jump on the bandwagon of interleaving ads into their content. Many are kind enough to make it easy to jump ahead to when the ad is over, but man, I would much prefer they set up a patreon or just let me pay them through youtube's own UI. Incredibly annoying.
ZaoLahma 52 minutes ago||
I'm surprised YouTube allows it. I'd expect them to want "their" share of the ad money, since creators in a way are side stepping the "normal" ad flow.
PlunderBunny 2 hours ago|||
The only winning move is not to play.
TitaRusell 2 hours ago|||
Only old school media is holding themselves to a standard. No AI, no sponsored content. And thank god we still have a public broadcaster.

The future is unfortunately propaganda and brain rot.

Freak_NL 3 hours ago|||
What is keeping you hooked to that type of content?
nkrisc 1 hour ago||
There’s an easy solution that I’ve taken: just stop watching stuff. Choose not to participate in the bullshit.
toilet 1 hour ago||
Stremio + Torrentio + Gluetun
chrisjj 1 hour ago||
> TiVo to charge money for skipping commercials in your own recordings

Deceptive and false title.

True title is: TiVo Plans to End Free Automatic Commercial Skipping in November, Tests Paid Premium Replacement Service

theginger 3 hours ago||
This is a really good example of how capitalism doesn't work so well in a digital economy. Normally there is are various arguments about how the subscription pays for the development / invitation. But here we have a feature that's been there for more than a decade, the only innovation is figuring how to monetize it.
gblargg 3 hours ago||
Isn't this because it's not a free market, e.g. the DMCA and other laws that prevent publishing how to work around digital locks?
agileAlligator 3 hours ago|||
Yep. IP is not true "property" either, since it is not "scarce"
tancop 1 hour ago|||
Free markets are impossible under capitalism. If wealth is allowed to concentrate there will be some companies that get so powerful they can influence public policy.

At that point you get regulations designed to make competing with them expensive or risky, like DMCA or submarine patents. They also legalize union busting and get courts to declare that you can get fired for any reason and getting pressured to sign an unfair contract is your fault.

The only thing you can really do against it as a government is making sure nobody ever captures a majority of any market and workers have ultimate control over their company. But that system is a form of market socialism so you can't really call it capitalist anymore.

imtringued 1 hour ago||
Correct, in a free market the returns reflect the underlying reality and if that reality means that in the capital abundance stage further capital is unnecessary and capital carries maintenance costs, then the return to capital becomes negative.

If capitalism is the pathological obsession that capital should always net a positive return, then it is incompatible with free markets by definition.

xiaodai 3 hours ago||
can't believe tivo is still around.
tech234a 2 hours ago|
They stopped selling new units and lifetime subscriptions about a year ago.
tyffanypastecf 3 hours ago||
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kotaKat 1 hour ago|
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