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Posted by domhudson 22 hours ago

I-have-ADHD: A skill to stop coding agents from burying the answer(github.com)
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josefresco 20 hours ago|
Does this not work? "Output styles" https://code.claude.com/docs/en/output-styles
hungryhobbit 19 hours ago||
No, it does not.
0xffff2 16 hours ago||
But also, this skill is basically the same thing as an output style, so it won't work either.
CharlesW 19 hours ago||
Yes, a custom output style would be a more idiomatic (and likely more effective) way to implement this.
bentt 21 hours ago||
I am deeply curious if there are people that would not benefit from this.
messh 20 hours ago||
good skill. but why should all this repo e needed for a small MD file??
ihuman 18 hours ago||
If its on github, you can add it directly to your claude via the claude marketplace and manage updates within claude (or set it to auto-update)
dpark 20 hours ago||
A public repo is the easiest way to share something like this.
dymk 20 hours ago||
Nah that would be a link to a gist
dpark 20 hours ago||
I suppose that’s also reasonable, though this particular repo also hosts evals and other content related to the skill. So a gist seems like it would be an addition, not a replacement.
pelagicAustral 20 hours ago||
ELI5, explain it to me like I'm a Golden Retriever, and prompts like "give me the answer in no more than a single paragraph and/or 100 words" work like a charm.
nosioptar 11 hours ago|
Ive tried asking a yes/no question with something like "answer only with 'yes' or 'no'" and still have to chew the clanker piece of shit out four or five times to get it to folow instructions.

Not to mention it almost always gets the wrong answer.

egeozcan 21 hours ago||
As a person who has ADHD, it feels weird when people who obviously do not have it, claim to have it, while there's very little I wouldn't do to "get rid of it" (in quotes because it makes me, me but it's very hard to be me).
thenewnewguy 20 hours ago||
I fully agree with you, and I think this trend of glorifying disabilities is cringe - ADHD, autism, etc. are life-altering medical conditions and not desirable.

However, I don't think this specific project is intending to glorify ADHD or help people claim they have it - it's just piggybacking on the idea that telling current-gen LLM models that you have ADHD (allegedly) produces better results for everyone.

wiseowise 7 hours ago|||
Finally. It is scary that this is not the top comment in the thread.

The “I can’t bother to read a paragraph therefore ADHD lolzzz” crowd is really fucking annoying.

phishin 20 hours ago|||
I have it and it is absolute gift that I wouldn’t trade for anything. It has taken years to figure how to harness it though.
dentemple 20 hours ago|||
It's a gift until it's a curse, and ADHD crashout/burnout is an absolute monster to overcome when it arrives.

And for any person who's tasked with any sort of responsibility, it WILL arrive at some point. It's not a question of if, only a question of how well you can prepare for its arrival.

bflesch 20 hours ago||
At its core it has striking similarities with a freeze response, which is overcome by increasing heart rate (e.g. stimulants, exercise, temperature shock). Big overlap with CPTSD symptoms as well.
doo_daa 17 hours ago||||
The diagnostic criteria are all about the fact that ADHD is a net negative. If you feel it is a net positive then you shouldn't have a diagnosis. As a fellow sufferer I do understand that in certain contexts I can out-perform and even run rings around "normal" people. But overall, having ADHD is a bad thing and I wish I didn't have it.
dymk 20 hours ago||||
Look, I’ve got it too. I’m glad we’ve figured out how to “game” the adhd. But it’s not a gift.
chasd00 20 hours ago||||
i have it too and it sucks, I have to take medicine every day for it. Why would an attention deficit and hyperactivity be a gift? Maybe you're talking about something else.
phainopepla2 20 hours ago||||
Can you explain what about is it a gift? What are the benefits you get from it?
98codes 16 hours ago|||
When you can align hyperfocus with your most beneficial vector of productivity, it's like you can accomplish anything, in half the time thought possible.

Problem is, there is no good way to direct the hyperfocus demon. It likes what it likes, it wants what it wants, and that's that.

Medication helps to save a pile of willpower/spoons/executive function safely from the demon so that we can get things that need doing done.

amazingman 20 hours ago||||
I have found both hyperfocus and the ability to quickly "drop" (i.e. distract from) a train of thought incredibly useful.
alwillis 19 hours ago||
Hyperfocus is great until it's not.

People with ADHD have "time blindness"; we don't process time the same way most people do.

We often don't realize 3 or 4 hours have passed and there were other things we needed to get done.

amazingman 8 hours ago||
Sure. These are the other sides of the coin. I've been medicated for years and unmedicated for years. Currently I'm in a ~10yr unmedicated stretch. Do I have frustrating moments, embarrassing easily avoidable failures, and so on? Yes. Do I sometimes lose many hours to a task and forget to eat? Yes. But I'm also kinder, more playful, and more present with my loved ones when I am unmedicated.

If the downsides get too bad and things start to fall apart then I will medicate again. Until then, no way I'm making that tradeoff.

LollipopYakuza 19 hours ago|||
I would sum it up as an ability to think out of the box, naturally having creative solutions. Which itself is a double-edged sword...
phainopepla2 14 hours ago||
I know a lot of people with ADHD and even more without it. I haven't noticed any correlation between ADHD and creativity or out-of-the-box thinking.
engineer_22 20 hours ago||||
fighting that fight right now... was doing great until I got to a level with self directed work
nosmokewhereiam 18 hours ago|||
...you don't have it.
Sohcahtoa82 13 hours ago|||
> while there's very little I wouldn't do to "get rid of it"

I'd be satisfied with removing the crippling executive dysfunction.

r_lee 20 hours ago|||
I guess it's just become a term for ADHD-like or popularly believed to be ADHD behavior.
bityard 20 hours ago|||
It turns out that most of the things that ADHD people use as coping strategies just to be functional, are actually things that most (non-ADHD) people can use to be more effective and productive in their lives and work.

So, no, not everyone can or should be diagnosed as ADHD. But the tools are (mostly) universally applicable. I don't see the downside in popularizing those. (Since you posted a top-level comment instead of a reply to someone claiming to have ADHD, I have to assume that's your complaint, at any rate.)

spicyusername 21 hours ago|||
I mean... like most spectrum disorders, most people experience and can relate to at least some of the core symptoms, even if they don't express the full spectrum or severity.

So when someone says they feel like they have ADHD, they are probably not inaccurate.

egeozcan 20 hours ago|||
No, great, I'm not offended or anything (why would I be), and I wish I could relate back, it's just a weird feeling, that's all.
spicyusername 20 hours ago||
No doubt.

When you have it, ADHD is such a dominant factor in the way your life is organized and experienced, its not surprising that it can become a core part of your identity.

I do think it's easy for those with it to over romanticize what it's like to not have it. The lack of ADHD isn't a magic bullet for success and good life outcomes.

Like so many of life's real or perceived barriers, when one gets removed, you'll often find there is another one with a different shape just behind.

The challenge, for anyone, is pressing forward anyways.

wiseowise 7 hours ago||||
You know what other thing that those with this fake ADHD can also relate to? Wasting hours a day scrolling on garbage resources.
oceansweep 20 hours ago||||
How can someone say they have a disease or affliction while not understanding what exactly that affliction is as opposed to what they think it is/have been informed by media/society/non-professionals?
spicyusername 20 hours ago||
How can anyone say anything at all...?

That generalizes all the way.

Everyone's just working off what they've experienced or what they think is true, for mental health or where to find good lunch.

There is no universal truth. Everything is moving relative to everything else. New year, new DSM.

It would be more surprising if our shared experience was more different than more the same.

Ydarbleoj 20 hours ago|||
I think this is a good point. My only push back would be that when people say they have ADHD, in my experience, they're speaking about inattention (and yes, it's one of the big factors).

And while I don't love that aspect in me and often eat cold toast as result, I find that to be the least of what I struggle with (hitting every wall while walking from point A to B or constantly counting / tapping on my fingers or pulling the skin off my fingers or the anxiety or the hyper focus (love it too!) to where I lose hours upon hours...).

All this to say, I'm never offended when people use it but typically it's rooted in a narrow understanding of something that's used as a pejorative. I think there's research that by age 12 kids with ADHD have heard 20,000 more negative or corrective comments than there peers.

I mean, I can read quite a bit but if my agent / harness is producing monographs the fix has nothing to do with my ADHD. So to me, this repo seems lame.

VCFundedGenYer 20 hours ago|||
Same. It started on Tumblr around 15 years ago when people were "self-diagnosing" themselves then it spiraled out of control. It really bothers me because I see a lot of of obviously-not-neurodivergent folks try to use it as an excuse (I am diagnosed formally + can easily detect if someone is just spouting nonsense about it)
bwhiting2356 20 hours ago|||
science is still early here
on_the_train 20 hours ago||
Ah yes the old "I have it but you don't"
flexagoon 13 hours ago|||
Yeah, that's called diagnosis
wiseowise 7 hours ago|||
So do you have an official diagnosis?
loloquwowndueo 16 hours ago||
I just tell Claude itself to summarize its walls of text. Works pretty well.
thefourthchime 20 hours ago||
I asked my agent if I should install this because I already have a bunch of instructions that are similar.

For example, if it's going to give me an answer that's longer than three paragraphs, I tell it to give me a TLDR at the end. This is what it gave me for this.

"TL;DR: Skip the install. You already built a better version for your world. If numbered steps and "where are we?" restatements still feel missing, cherry-pick those into one short rule instead of adding another full skill on top."

smusamashah 18 hours ago||
Simply adding "Keep answers short, I have ADHD" should work same as this skill.
newswasboring 18 hours ago|
Does it? I've tried so many versions of this in custom instructions.
latentsea 10 hours ago||
Kinda offensive name to some of us btw.
0xffff2 17 hours ago|
From the "10 rules":

> Specific time estimates (minutes, not "a bit").

I actually wish the model would go completely in the opposite direction. Except in the rare circumstances where the model has actually measured something, it is hilariously deficient in its concept of time. It will often output phrases like "this relates to <thing> that you did weeks ago", referring to something that happened in the session just a few turns (and hours or a couple of days) ago. Likewise for estimating how long a coding tasks takes, it is hilariously inept. It honestly feels like it rolls two completely independent dice to select a number and a value from (hours | days | weeks) when it needs to attach an estimate to something. I'd much rather read "a bit" than be distracted by these utterly nonsensical times.

The full skill gives this example:

>Bad: "This will take some work." Good: "About 15 minutes if tests already cover this. An afternoon if not."

My experience is that it is very likely that whatever task this is describing takes anywhere from 1 to 30 minutes, consistently. Maybe I just work way faster than the average person.

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