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Posted by yks 18 hours ago

Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent(ai.meta.com)
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enahs-sf 11 hours ago|
I just asked it:

“Can you lowball fools on marketplace for me?”

It replied:

“Say less, I can do that. What am I hunting…”

People are going to use this product for bad things.

zrobotics 10 hours ago|
Oh god, as if marketplace wasn't already enough of a toxic cesspool. I miss Craigslist more and more every year, unfortunately FB marketplace seems to be where everyone in my area has congregated.
cheema33 9 hours ago||
> I miss Craigslist more and more

I do not. Craigslist was completely anonymous. Marketplace a lot less so. This makes a massive difference.

> marketplace seems to be where everyone in my area has congregated.

I think that is not just limited to your area.

herbst 5 hours ago||
In Switzerland there is tutti, in Austria there is willhaben, Germany has Kleinanzeigen (afaik that's owned by eBay)

Same for events, plenty of local or more spread sites for events in each of these counties.

So glad my general area didn't fall into the Facebook trap.

camoby 12 hours ago||
Of only they could apply this intel to their ad sales systems to stop CSAM ads being sold to make them money.
Peroni 1 hour ago|
I once asked a high-ranking Meta trust & safety employee why they don't just block paid ads that include telegram links and the short version of the incredible mental gymnastics they went through was "identifying telegram links is hard".
misrasaurabh1 17 hours ago||
I really don't want to share all my personal life information with meta like this.
msdz 17 hours ago||
In fact, I’d go as far as to say there’s few companies I’d entrust less the level of data required for a tool like a “personal AI agent”…
dgellow 17 hours ago|||
OpenAI is next on my list
andrewingram 16 hours ago|||
Only one i'd trust less is SpaceX, and they're other major player in this space...
matthewfcarlson 17 hours ago|||
Agreed. Love the idea and the polish. Hate the owners
ieie3366 17 hours ago|||
You are not the target audience.
asveikau 17 hours ago|||
I don't think normies have a positive association with meta.
spiderice 17 hours ago|||
They have over 3 billion monthly active users... Almost half the earth.

I think you need to recalibrate what a "normie" is.

asveikau 17 hours ago|||
I think you need to recalibrate in your own mind what using a product means. It doesn't mean you like it, or the company behind it. It may also be due to monopoly status.

Do you like your utility company? Your phone company? Your ISP? Your insurance?

motoxpro 16 hours ago||
Huh? I would echo the sentiment of you recalibrating what a normie is. This is a crazy take. I would guess that fair amount of people have no idea that Facebook rebranded to Meta, let alone what goes on in and around the company.

Meta products are entertainment, not water and power, comparing them to that is so overblown.

Plenty of people don't use IG or Facebook at all, and plenty of people just go on every now and then and enjoy the experience and leave.

asveikau 16 hours ago||
Here's what I found when I googled "polling on Mark Zuckerberg":

> Roughly 54% to 70% of Americans express an unfavorable view of him

> Zuckerberg is viewed negatively by both major parties. Democrats and Republicans alike report high rates of disapproval regarding his influence and leadership.

> Dislike for the Meta CEO spans all age groups, though younger adults display particularly high skepticism.

YOU GUYS are so far out of touch to say normies don't hate and distrust the people behind Meta. They will use the products but this is not a positive reflection on the brand at all.

spiderice 14 hours ago|||
You are playing games. You implied that people's feelings for FB would prevent people from being the target audience.

Clearly that isn't true.

Now you're hyper focusing on how people feel about FB, and not whether it precludes them from being the target market. Convenient.

And before you respond saying "I never said they aren't the target market, just that they hate FB". To which I say, reread the damn conversation. You're obviously drawing a relation between hating FB and not being the target market. Even if you're now scrambling to back out of that claim because we've shown you 3 billion reasons why you're wrong.

asveikau 12 hours ago||
I'm not playing games.

All I said to enter this thread was:

> I don't think normies have a positive association with meta.

And a bunch of you guys contested this for some reason.

motoxpro 9 hours ago||
"Most Americans Still Like Facebook, Poll Finds—But Not Mark Zuckerberg Or Its New Meta Name"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/11/02/most-am...

Which was my point: CEO affinity =/= the affinity for the product people use

asveikau 9 hours ago||
That article is a few years old.

https://yougov.com/en-gb/topics/brand/Meta-Brand

dspillett 17 hours ago||||
A great many use their products grudgingly in my experience - posting minimally, staying because network effects make it difficult to completely move, and not wanting to give FB and friends more than they already do.
iAMkenough 15 hours ago|||
They bought those users. I’d quit ASAP if it wasn’t necessary for work. However, I won’t give them a dime.
ieie3366 17 hours ago||||
Hahaha most Meta product users don't even know what Meta is
johanyc 38 minutes ago|||
Is that true? I find that unlikely. I would believe if normies don't know Alphabet or Bytedance even when they use their products every day. But Meta? You open every app they make it literally says "from Meta" in the splash screen
asveikau 17 hours ago|||
Yes, the fact that they renamed from Facebook helps them buy some time before people figure it out. But they don't feel good about the company.
bigyabai 13 hours ago||
How much time? 5 years? 10 years? 100 years?

The average user doesn't make principled decisions around what hardware they use, the software they buy or the services they use. We have billions of Chinese phones and Windows laptops as proof of that. You can give them decades to make a healthier choice, and they'll still go back to use Meta properties if it gives them what they want.

HN users are a tiny minority of social media users, and I think it's easy to buy the fallacy that our privacy-obsessed outlook is the norm. But much like YouTube or X, there will be people defending these dumpster fires until their final breath because it's what they want. We can't stop them any more than I can make you quit using HN.

colordrops 17 hours ago|||
Someone is using their products.
asveikau 17 hours ago||
This is different from liking them.
loeg 16 hours ago|||
Only because you've redefined dislike to encompass portions of what most people would call like.
a2ff6eeb0 17 hours ago|||
But not different enough to prevent people from using them.
brcmthrowaway 17 hours ago|||
The target audience is influencers paid by Meta.. Brilliant!
hakanderyal 17 hours ago|||
But they say "It comes with strong privacy and security built in" right on the page!
InsideOutSanta 17 hours ago||
Only Meta and its 27,000 most trusted, carefully selected corporate friends can access your data.
InsideOutSanta 17 hours ago|||
I'd rather have Butterbean punch me in the balls than install a "personal assistant" app from Meta on my computer.
ZacnyLos 17 hours ago|||
But people love to! Really sad
NightCrwler 17 hours ago||
too late for that, based on all the tracking there is.
hoihoihoi 4 hours ago||
Still interesting though, worth to try it out (just trying..)
dzink 16 hours ago||
The goal is always the same - be the one and only place where people go to buy things online. Especially their highest margin purchases.
zecg 4 hours ago||
This is just as compelling as the metaverse was.
ziofill 5 hours ago||
As cool as this looks, I can’t get past my suspicion of Meta…
kimseungyong 11 hours ago||
How about this idea?

We all know that Meta is a company that makes money off personal data anyway

Meta should be honest, stop selling this to users for money, and instead pay users to buy the information

If you subscribe, you get paid; if you generate more than a certain amount of traffic, you get paid again the following month, and so on

I know there was a scandal when Meta conducted Facebook research, but that was when they tried to collect even root information Wouldn’t it be fine if you just took a screenshot of the information I told the Agent?

Instead of something like coins, please provide credits that are actually useful

I don’t want to give Meta my information for free, but if they buy it for me, I’d be willing to try it

throwyawayyyy 16 hours ago|
I can't say it doesn't make sense. Who still loves Facebook? Older people. Who loves chatbots? Old people too. Not _just_ old people of course, but this genuinely might be the first new tech I've seen which has been so easily and quickly welcomed by those a generation or two older than me.
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