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Posted by Topfi 13 hours ago

Mercury 2.5(www.inceptionlabs.ai)
201 points | 31 comments
BoredomIsFun 53 minutes ago|
I tried at it creative writing - and, with thinking off, it was considerably better than Mercury 2 and generally good in fact, not very sloppy. Now with thinking on, it got worse, began hallucinating things; this is something I've noticed with all recent models - enabling reasoning causes hallucinations in creative writing assignments.
misstuned 37 minutes ago|
Similar, I've found that on most recent models I've tried, reasoning will cause it to spend quite a lot of time thinking about whether even the most wholesome fictional scenario is something it's allowed to write about, which in turn causes it to start hallucinating details. For creative writing I've found the minimum of thinking is the best way.
Sphax 13 hours ago||
Got my hopes up when it said widely available GPUs that it would be open weights but it doesn’t seem like it sadly
piterrro 1 hour ago||
I’m using this model to „rerank” results from vector store. The model is provided a set of results and asked to produce a string of 1s and 0s where the offset reflects the position in the result set. The prompt goes along the line „do this set of result match the provided query X”. Works like a charm, normally I would use a small non reasoning model, but given how Mercury produces the output its blazingly fast - which is what I was optimizing for - not to increase the search latency. It helped improving our search in a way that reranker could get close to.
mring33621 13 hours ago||
I like the model.

FYI:

"If you do not want us to use your User Submissions to train our models, you can opt-out by setting the ‘Improve the model for everyone’ option under User Settings in the API Platform to OFF."

Jblx2 6 hours ago||
Not related to the Mercury language:

https://mercurylang.org/

networked 4 hours ago||
Interesting model. I tried to make Mercury investigate the hardcoded prompts in my (aider-derived) agent harness and repeatedly got this error:

> server: Upstream error from Inception: I'm sorry, but I can't share details of my architecture or training process. Would you like to learn about how language models work in general instead?

It looks like an overeager IP-protection classifier. However, the model recovered and completed the turn despite the errors (three total).

faangguyindia 5 hours ago||
Diffusion is already being used in Drafter in many LLMs.

many people are running Qwen 3.8 27b on TPU at 130tk/s for free on Kaggle TPUs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Qwen_AI/comments/1w6gv32/qwen3827b_...

I wonder if we are going to see boxes appear soon, which can run these models for dirt cheap.

sixeyes 1 hour ago||
Do diffusion models let me specify how long i want the answer beforehand? That seems like it could be useful.
gertlabs 12 hours ago||
Inception is one of the most interesting neolabs with their diffusion-based architectures. My understanding is that their primary business is low latency voice applications but they are seriously pursuing coding.

We tested Mercury 2.5 Preview, which is nowhere close to the frontier (and not advertised as such), but it's actually usable as a general-purpose chatbot. It's comparable in problem solving ability to some last-gen open weights models, and the price and cost make it compelling. However, they have not figured out general purpose tool use and agentic coding (their model performs worse on our problems when given a custom harness). If they do, I see a lot of real-time applications that the speed and cost will enable.

thomastill 13 hours ago|
Congrats! Happy to see someone seriously pursuing this direction.
msdz 13 hours ago||
Same. Models that are fast (and thus by extension, in some direction, efficient) but not local/self-hosted IMO fill a niche for quick and cheap (and acceptable quality, of course) inference in business contexts.
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