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Posted by EdwinHoksberg 1 day ago

Shopify acquires Tailwind(tailwindcss.com)
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DonLawrence 16 hours ago|
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dotinvictim 1 day ago||
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throwaway613746 1 day ago||
Another open source project being consumed by capitalist vultures. It's not enough to just fund them as charity is it?
colesantiago 22 hours ago|
They are a for profit? why do you think they need to be a charity?

And even if they were a charity, the sponsors... well I don't think you would like them either.

They were 'captured' before Shopify bought them.

pier25 22 hours ago||
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colesantiago 20 hours ago|
This line of thinking is getting tired, and I don't think anybody cares.

Money > Principles

100% every time

fnwbr 19 hours ago||
money > principles is getting tired
colesantiago 19 hours ago||
No. it rules everything.

From OSS, to family, health, employees to everything that requires money.

This is how I know you've never been in a leadership position which is why you don't understand this.

If so, why didn't you and pier25 buy Tailwind Labs to save them from being bought by Shopify and Tobi? (who is apparently being called a Nazi by those who hate him)

As they say with this Tailwind situation:

Money talks.

And you're in no position to execute any principles if your business has gone bust.

pier25 16 hours ago||
> who is apparently being called a Nazi by those who hate him

Maybe nazi is not the right word but he has some pretty radical political views such as ending universal suffrage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/shopify-ceo-endorses-idea-to-...

yodon 1 day ago||
Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/2347/
lekevicius 1 day ago|
Luckily, Tailwind is, and likely always will be, a block at the very top. Not a critical piece of infrastructure.
Zarkex01 1 day ago||
And even then, how would Tailwind "die"?
lofaszvanitt 1 day ago||
Oh, bejesus. Shopify awards the Stupefiers.

Why would anyone need any kind of framework for CSS?! It's the inherent human need to control something, to package water and sell it as magical water.

I've never understood the whole idea. Bootstrap: the hard-to-remember, horrible shitshow forced on frontend devs. And people thought there couldn't possibly be anything lower than that. Then Tailwind arrived. Apparently, frontend joes are so below average in brain capacity that they need their shiny thing covered in stickers saying "modern" and "state of the art", otherwise they feel dirty, like they haven't taken a shower in a week.

It's like building a framework to simplify the SQL dialect. In reality, there's zero need for it, because SQL is so simple and easy to understand that you'd have to be a moron to use some kind of framework for it. The same applies to CSS. Tailwind is an abomination, a horrible mess, just like all the other pointless CSS 'frameworks'.

These aren't frameworks. They're just some semi-psycho control freak's projection of control over something that doesn't need controlling.

Let's just say it out loud: Tailwind is being rewarded for turning tons of frontend joes into complete idiots by telling them the tale that their shiny thing is the new standard, when all it ever was was an experiment in the gullibility of inherently moronic people.

moritzwarhier 17 hours ago||
> It's like building a framework to simplify the SQL dialect. In reality, there's zero need for it

Years of people deploying web apps and using (My-)SQL without prepared statements provide a counterexample to this. One can argue about ORMs, but stating SQL would need no abstraction layer around it seems questionable to me :/

vehemenz 20 hours ago|||
These are the same anti-Tailwind arguments that have been circulating forever.

If you want to build a case against Tailwind that's actually compelling, you should start by understanding what it is first. Only then can you compare it to other frameworks and methodologies.

lofaszvanitt 1 hour ago||
Maybe you should come up with an example instead of trying to sound wise, while in reality protecting an inferior and useless thing forced on devs.
paradox460 17 hours ago|||
I've made arguments like this in the past, and my position hasn't changed much

https://pdx.su/blog/2023-07-26-tailwind-and-the-death-of-cra...

lofaszvanitt 1 hour ago||
High five!
n738 22 hours ago|||
Precisely this.
vehemenz 20 hours ago||
Do you have an argument, or are you coasting on the "trust me bro" vibes of the parent?
NoDodgeQuestion 22 hours ago||
dont like "Cascading", inline css better https://vuejs.org/guide/scaling-up/sfc#what-about-separation...
219283751 1 day ago||
I thought the narrative by Lütke et. al. was that the clankers could do everything by themselves!

Turns out that clankers generate beige static websites that use 100% CPU, so some assistance is needed.

We now have proof that the above is true, since Lütke adheres to the principle that any non-clanker usage has to be justified. Let us assume he justified the purchase.

fchicken 18 hours ago|
I read this as "Shopify acquires Taiwan"