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Posted by meetpateltech 20 hours ago

iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max(www.apple.com)
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jchook 19 hours ago|
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runjake 18 hours ago||
There's a lot of misdirected complaining here, so some reminders:

- Apple has this event because it generates buzz, which increases sales.

- You do not need to watch the event.

- You do not need to pay attention to anything about the event.

- You do not need to buy the new device.

michelb 18 hours ago||
Golden HN rule: the more complaints, the more successful the product will turn out because normal people like it. It’s like the inverse Cramer.
justinator 17 hours ago|||
I guess exception:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36201593

michelb 7 hours ago||
Maybe, but I would argue the Vision Pro is a devkit.
justinator 17 hours ago||||
Things were simpler in the Slashdot/iPod era.
mig39 14 hours ago||
No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.
Razengan 17 hours ago|||
The Reddit Rule: The more votes someone gets for bitching about something, the more popular that thing is in the Real World.

Like on the post about the No Man's Sky update: "Oh these devs have been putting out free updates for 10 years? So what? I don't like it"

The worst thing about cynical-for-the-sake-of-being-cynical goons is that they drown out the actual legitimate complains and concerns about something.

ActorNightly 16 hours ago||
- Top 4/6 links on HN are currently Apple news.

Yeah Apple TOTALLY doesn't astroturf HN.

geraneum 15 hours ago||
That doesn’t seem to be worth the effort to astroturf HN. We are not as important in Apple sales volume scale as you think we are.
ActorNightly 2 hours ago||
There are endless posts on HN about how Macs are good for LLMs. Somoene is running some model on their Mac for local inference.

What the posts dont mention is how unusable that experience is with dogshit slow tokens/second. To make a local model usefull you need to run the highest parameter models at 100+ tok/sec, otherwise you are just better off paying for cloud inference. So either all those people are dumb as hell, or Apple is doing clever advertising. And I personally have more faith in the tech sector.

AxonOSorg 14 hours ago||
Great
josteink 17 hours ago||
This phone is so underwhelming it doesn’t even make the frontpage of HN. And yes, I realise it was obviously overshadowed by the Duo.

Still. This must be the first iPhone not to break page one.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Edit: Page one I guess?

MattDamonSpace 17 hours ago|
Hi from page 1
matesz 17 hours ago||
Did they just announce the ultimate solution to image authenticity online?

Instead of proving some image on some platform is not AI or severely edited, we can simply prove it was original by verifying unforgeable signature made by a camera / microphone baked into each image produced by it.

And of course in future it could be done for video and audio! This would be absolutely HUGE!

embedding-shape 17 hours ago||
> that image shared online is original and unedited?

The image data the sensor physically receives passes through a ton of processing steps before the image lands in your phone. If there is some watermarking/signature doing on, on the image, it'd be that the device at that moment capture that data, not that it's not AI, or not edited, or "truthful" or whatever. That's still an unsolved problem to figure out.

nicce 17 hours ago|||
It is a very old idea. But it matters a lot in iPhone’s scale. Many people will have it without buying a separate device.
rickdeckard 16 hours ago|||
From what I understand, the feature renders a signed reference image from raw sensor-data "alongside the final image".

Still no solution if the image posted online is not that reference image or that reference image is actually a photo of an AI picture.

Oras 15 hours ago|||
Isn’t that done by EXIF like decades ago? Not on phones but DSLR. I would think it’s an easy software thing to add (and probably to remove)
doublepg23 17 hours ago||
The underlying tech is already compromised on the Android side.

https://lobste.rs/s/4netv1/c2pa_cameras_do_not_survive_conta...

SirFatty 19 hours ago||
Where's the foldable? :-D
rootusrootus 19 hours ago||
In some thread not yet voted to the front page. iPhone Duo

Edit: Nevermind, it has made the front page now

stuff4ben 19 hours ago||
Apple iPhone Duo is out
qsbuilder 13 hours ago|
From an Android perspective we have the new upcoming Snapdragon which is going to be more powerful and more efficient. Just for anyone thinking of switching though I share that :)
WarmWash 13 hours ago|
I have been out of the phone tech loop for a while...

When did Qualcomm start eclipsing apple?

Havoc 12 hours ago||
They’re not. They’re both playing the same ARM mobile chip game though and recent Qualcomm chips have been decent. Just a pity about their weak software support