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Posted by awad 18 hours ago

AirPods 5(www.apple.com)
461 points | 393 commentspage 4
NichoPaolucci 15 hours ago|
Not sure how the public has received them, but I cannot stand to wear the non-pro airpods for more than maybe 40 minutes. They used to give plastic earbuds away with the purchase of a device! I get it, bluetooth vs wired, extra features... but they are super uncomfortable to wear IMO.

The Pros, completely different story. Maybe a bit pricey but the ecosystem, battery life, comfort, ANC, all of that is great. The difference that little rubber piece makes is wild.

Side note - the "directional" audio (Sounds as if it's originating from your device rather than standard L/R audio), not sure if this is still a thing, but it was super weird the first time I tried it. I literally had to check that I was actually using the earbuds a few times, and refused to use it after. Maybe it was TOO good, super cool tech though.

iknowstuff 15 hours ago||
Different strokes.

I'm the opposite, the rubber ones are annoying and give me headaches. Love the open ear feel.

thefz 15 hours ago||
> I cannot stand to wear the non-pro airpods

> The Pros, completely different story

You think this is accidental?

syncsynchalt 15 hours ago||
They're just covering two ends of the market. I can't stand wearing Pros myself, I can feel the sweat building up in any isolating earbud, and it makes me feel itchy. Would hate for the non-isolating product to disappear.
layer8 17 hours ago||
I still want them to bring the “tap” operation of the first two generations back. It’s so convenient, for example when wearing them under a beanie in winter. The squeezing and swiping controls aren’t an adequate replacement.
mulderc 16 hours ago|
yeah I loved the tap controls. Would be nice to have both available. My guess is that for many people the "tap" wasn't as accurate as apple would like it to be as I had heard lots of complaints about that not working for people when I was available.
znkynz 14 hours ago||
5 hours of battery life... is a feature they're proud of?
xquce 14 hours ago|
Yes. That's alot of battery life for in-ears of that size. Also you add hours more in a 10 min charge from the case. If you have to wear headphones for more than 5 hours straight without a few min break, you have other issues than th technology.
ericpauley 12 hours ago||
Trying to sleep straight through a long haul flight; what’s the issue with that?
baggachipz 14 hours ago||
No new Pros. They probably saw all the blowback about meta glasses and thought that maybe now's not the time for cameras on things.
thenthenthen 9 hours ago|
The Dyson toothbrush seems to think … different
AndrewStephens 16 hours ago||
I knew this was going to happen when I purchased my AirPod3s a couple of weeks ago. The only feature I really miss is the touch volume control.
jjice 17 hours ago||
I really hate silicone tip earbuds and the AirPods 4 with ANC were game changing. Having ANC without the silicone tips was just huge for me. It's obviously not as good as having the passive isolation of the silicone as well, but it's plenty good for airplanes and trains.

Are there non-Apple alternatives that also accomplish this?

gmac 2 hours ago||
Same here. And I was seriously impressed with how much noise cancelling the v4 can do. I will be seriously impressed again if the v5 is as much better as they claim.
100percentjake 14 hours ago||
I have searched far and wide and have found nothing. I haven't even found a basic-functionality wired earbud that matches the AirPods frequency reproduction.
concretebush 7 hours ago||
try their own cheapo wired earbuds, i use those all the time, no battery, no silicone tip, no bt compression, happiness - they even come with usbc option so they work with the phone, too
whycome 14 hours ago||
The naming and numbering system for these are now getting annoying. AirPod 3 has the last pro model I guess?
Vachyas 12 hours ago|
Confusing enough that I see ads from major retailers mixing it up (or maybe it's on purpose?) listing "Airpods Pro 4" only to click the link and see it's the Airpods 4.
triwats 15 hours ago||
I worry about the safety element of this. I'm not sure that having people walking around completely oblivious to their environments is a good thing.

In a multiple of ways: you become disconnected from nature and closed off to environments, and you also reduce safety because you don't know what is going on around you (high % of population live in cities).

Not a uniquely Apple problem though, I suppose.

matsemann 15 hours ago||
People drive cars every day, isolated in a box with windows rolled up, playing music or radio, not being able to hear what's going on around them. So I don't buy the safety argument of noise canceling headphones being dangerous.
stouset 15 hours ago|||
If we’re going there, cars are a leading cause of death and the leading cause of death for children and young adults.

That said, the masses have had noise cancelling earbuds for years at this point and while there definitely are cases of people getting hurt or killed from being unaware of their surroundings, it’s not really been that big a deal.

juiceland 15 hours ago||
>cars are a leading cause of death and the leading cause of death for children and young adults.

Firearms have been the leading cause of death for people ages 1-19 since 2020.

[0]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2201761

lotsofpulp 9 hours ago|||
I wonder if that stat is true if removing the kids in gangs from the data. One cause of death is relatively undiscerning and applicable to all, but the other cause of death might only apply to a few. But I don’t know, I’d like to see the actual stat.
simmschi 14 hours ago||||
In the USA.
stouset 14 hours ago|||
How utterly depressing.
pipnonsense 15 hours ago|||
Well, that’s exactly why I worry when walking around with noise canceling phones. Because all those people driving cars oblivious to their surroundings
matsemann 15 hours ago||
Yeah, I get your point, I jusr don't think the solution is to police pedestrians. I'll stop wearing noise canceling headphones in the city the day cars stop being loud, and when the drivers of those cars drive with no music and their windows rolled down ;)
utopiah 3 hours ago|||
Indeed not Apple specific.

That's also why there are different designs, e.g. in ear, over ear, open over ear, bone conduction, and technologies, e.g. noise cancelling, active noise cancelling, non voice filtering.

Typically there are visuals though, e.g. crossing lights for pedestrian, so the risk from the lack of hearing in a city is quite low IMHO.

FWIW in Belgium you can even legally ride a bike with earphones, which shows the risk is estimated to be very low.

juiceland 15 hours ago|||
>In a multiple of ways: you become disconnected from nature and closed off to environments

I live in a city. Nature for me means the squealing breaks of cars and trucks + people trying to get my attention so I'll take their religious flyer. No thanks.

franzb 15 hours ago|||
AirPods and other ANC earphones have been around for ages, nothing new.
theshrike79 15 hours ago||
Listening to music while out and about doesn't equate to "completely oblivious".

I've seen people with no earbuds be completely oblivious and almost walk into traffic...

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