They say v4.1flash is so strong that they'll route API calls to v4pro to v4.1flash, lol

super fast true

Does it beat Geminis on document processing is what I want to know.

DeepSeek invented the whole reasoning paradigm and keep pushing for innovation. I hope they get the success they deserve.

I've used to use deepseek because it would do what western models wouldn't but lately it seemed to deny a quite benign request because it considered it "piracy". Never expected this from a Chinese model.

I am building software factories and deepseek IS the workhorse.

I personally found V4-flash an amazing model and really hungry to try 4.1-flash

For software factories, cost is much more a concern that standard development workflow and using anthropic models is just a non starter

Slighlty better than GPT 5.6-Sol based on benchmarks

I am speculating but hard to not see that DeepSeek is brewing a full Pro model with those new techniques to come out right around the time of Anthropic and/or OpenAI IPO to tamper the excitement for their offering.

it is really fast. What’s more? It can now debug pages by clicking browser itself, which means more tokens consumed

i think deepseek is one of the most efficient but still not cohesive as a coding agent

Everyone was slurping the chat jeopardy and anthropic kool aide here, I was using DS before it became available via cli, and it was evident for who's not blind how good it is.

Tune has changed finally, but damn, for HN , embarrassingly slow, has to be said