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Posted by datakan 2 days ago

LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'(www.tomshardware.com)
https://www.lg.com/global/newsroom/news/statements/statement...
509 points | 397 commentspage 7
bediger4000 2 days ago|
So what? We allow people and corporations to lie under almost all circumstances, including most ads and press releases. Get them under oath, if they still deny spying, that would be a minor news item.
xyst 14 hours ago||
lg trying to spin this so hard the earth rotation may stop
Joel_Mckay 14 hours ago||
Creepy spyware vendor insists they aren't doing what they were caught doing.

They made customers feel like suckers for trusting the Brand.

Their LG logo was literally on the signed evidence. What a bunch of clowns getting exposed by community reporters. Thanks Steve. =3

Simulacra 14 hours ago||
So very strange every time I visit Tomshardware.com, I get a pop-up on my iPhone that asked me "Do you want to download "sync-pixel" on "usync.ingage.tech"?

What is that? And why does it only happen on that website?

mohamedkoubaa 15 hours ago||
We need a push notification: "Living room TV wants to use its microphone" and for it to be locked out if you don't allow it.
j45 15 hours ago||
Leaving TVs disconnected from the internet is the only way to ignore this.

Connect your own devices and smarts to it.

A broader issue is that it does any kind of recording, or processing of the signals around the tv (from a microphone) or what is displayed on the tv (image) is both extremely private.

Privacy has been violated by LG according to their own wording. a way that is not controlled by settings.

What might LG want with an anonymized hash of the audio being played or shown on someone's screen?

Existing ad matching technology can link it with the video of what you're watching to build a shadow profile of you and then sell the attention of your eyeballs to advertising.

From there, simply what you watch, at what time, for how long roughly sets up a wonderful demographic of age, gender, interests, and all that fun stuff. This is an area of tv and video advertisign that has existed for a long time including online and cable tv boxes.

LG's statement that it doesn't move your info anywhere about what is being watched via audio seems to be a variant of this. Using the audio fingerprint, their software could request an ad for it from another system and direction.

So your information may not leave the TV indirectly, but thsi type of a mechanism does exist in cable tv boxes, etc.

With TVs absorbing the OTT (set top box) functions they are absorbing this too so their claims of how big their market is probably tied to being able to sell advertising into that ecosystem.

It’s likely an unadvertised function only for the benefit and leverage of LG and may be buried in signing your life away to use their “smart” tv functions as well.

A tiny crack in LG tvs can be an attack vector for security and safety. Whether it's audio, or video, or anything.

The best TV is a dumb tv, with all internet disabled and plug in your own smarts that you can hopefully manage better.

A brand is a promise of an experience. This brand has broken a promise and it can’t be pretending it didn’t.

jodydonetti 12 hours ago||
Obligatory reference

https://youtu.be/krj5NM-6tfU

metanonsense 11 hours ago||
We're listening. We hear you. We're hear for you.
someonehere 13 hours ago||
The ACR stuff was turned on by default for mine. They are straight up lying.
encrypted_bird 9 hours ago|
>LG denies TV spying claims

Yeah, they fucking *would*.

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