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Posted by jonifico 10 hours ago

Thelio Mira AI Linux Workstation: 192 GB GPU Memory(system76.com)
105 points | 86 comments
lxe 8 hours ago|
I thought it was a pricing mistake. But no, you just have to select the variations. $42,412.00
f6v 2 hours ago||
And people still don't believe Apple is giving a good deal on Macs.
pulse7 1 hour ago||
Prompt processing on Macs is VERY slow...
CoastalCoder 47 minutes ago|||
> Prompt processing on Macs is VERY slow...

That sounds like a contradiction.

/J

larodi 43 minutes ago|||
which engine? cause there are dozens already, and some are quite fast.
embedding-shape 15 minutes ago||
Which one is the fastest and how fast is it? Even the "fast" ones doesn't seem to even reach close to consumer NVIDIA GPUs released years ago when it comes to prompt processing.
adastra22 6 hours ago|||
They missed an opportunity by not adding $8
mcbuilder 8 hours ago|||
I had to do a double take myself, scrolled down and arrived at a similar number.

Wish I built this a few years ago!

slowmovintarget 6 hours ago|||
Yeah, I bought a Thelio Major three years ago. I'm kicking myself for not going dual-4090s for a mere $10K back then.
mandeepj 3 hours ago||
Hopefully it will come down to that price point or cheaper again in the next 3-4 years?
matheusmoreira 47 minutes ago||
Hopefully... If it doesn't, mere mortals like us consumers are going to be priced out of computers altogether. It'll be the end of the personal computing era and a return to big iron mainframes.
felixfurtak 8 hours ago|||
Me three
menaerus 3 hours ago|||
I wonder what the target audience for this price range is? At that price point I would rather go for a single H100.
lukeschlather 2 hours ago||
I would rather take this option than a single H100:

> 96 GB Dual NVIDIA RTX PRO 5000 w/ 1000W PSU (non-refundable) +$19,169

Though I don't think there's anything stopping you from trying to stuff an H100 into this machine if you want to BYO.

menaerus 2 hours ago||
For that price you get the H100. The machine is overpriced, and I'd personally rather go for a second-hand workstation with server-grade components.
slowmovintarget 6 hours ago||
So a new car, or an AI rig.

That's a bitter pill to swallow. Most of this is the cost of the Nvidia card, and the RAM.

Keyframe 1 hour ago|||
$42k and a toy CPU at that. Threadripper or EPIC if it must be AMD camp, although I'd rather it weren't (_always_ some random issues on linux). TBH, if I were buying workstation at such prices, I'd probably first take a look at what HP has (since their cooling and immunity to dust is unprecedented), and then probably BOXX and Puget. For DIY there's always supermicro at such levels.
anaisbetts 1 hour ago||
That's what I don't understand, they're shipping RTX 6000s that are PCI lane-starved. Buying a Maserati and driving it around in 3rd gear.
numpad0 4 hours ago||||

  Graphics:
    (...)
    +$18,399 192 GB Dual NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 w/ 1000W + 750W PSUs (non-refundable) +$37,239
  Memory:
    (...)
    192 GB DDR5 3600 MHz (4x48) +$1,874 
yup, 87.8% of $42,412 is just two GPUs and a PSU. Even RAM is less than 5%.
coffeebeqn 2 hours ago||
Really just the GPUs. PSUs aren’t that expensive maybe 100-200 for a good 750W-1000W one
embedding-shape 13 minutes ago||
Kind of feels like if you spend $40K on your GPU setup, you don't want to cheap out on the PSU.

Still, you're right, I have a 1200W PSU for a single RTX Pro 6000, cost ~500 something, so still the PSU shouldn't be that large part of the total budget.

sourweasel 6 hours ago||||
I've noticed that some companies have flat out dropped the high memory configurations from their lineup that were offered just months ago at inflated prices. OnePlayerX had a 128GB Strix Halo tablet, RedMagic had a 24GB Android phone - both have been removed from their sites. It's a similar situation for the new Thinkpad lineup.
alightsoul 5 hours ago|||
The honor 400 used to be sold for 300 dollars with 12 gb of ram. Now the replacement the honor 600 comes with 8 GB at twice the price.
cute_boi 6 hours ago|||
SSD too. The priced have tripled...

It would be great if China had more lithography machine....

t-3 4 hours ago|||
All memory. SSDs are expensive, microSD is expensive, even spinning rust has inflated.
jaggederest 6 hours ago||||
hoist by our own strategic export controls, rip
vsgherzi 5 hours ago|||
Taiwan would disagree
pulkas 19 minutes ago||
Thelio Mira AI $3,299.00 Description Specs Warranty Accelerate your AI development with Thelio Mira AI, System76's affordable, GPU-focused workstations, built for local AI development — so you can train, fine-tune, and iterate challenging AI workloads entirely on your own hardware.

Configure Thelio Mira with up to:

    16-core AMD Ryzen 9000 Series CPU
    192 GB DDR5 RAM
    Dual NVIDIA RTX Pro 6000 GPU
    192 GB GPU memory

this is miss leading. actually it is 4gb ram a400 price.

dual RTX6000 price is : $40,538.00

Tsiklon 2 hours ago||
That memory speed drop going from single DIMM per channel DDR5 to dual DIMM per channel is very much notable - 3600MT/s is barely any faster than what DDR4 could do in it's final days.

The CPU market seems to be missing the "HEDT" platform we used to enjoy.

tpm 2 hours ago|
Threadripper (4 or 8 memory channels)
layer8 4 hours ago||
> Accelerate your AI development with Thelio Mira AI, System76's affordable, GPU-focused workstations

From $3,299 (with just 64 GB RAM and a 4 GB GPU) to over $50,000. Very affordable indeed.

abenga 1 hour ago|
50K without a proper CPU, mind.
fsuts 23 minutes ago||
Speaking of AMD CPU’s, how is Strix Halo coming along?

As that’s unified memory à la Apple and I think up to 128gb

embedding-shape 9 hours ago||
Seems they might be selling a combo of dual RTX Pro 6000 workstation cards (non-refundable), but the setup they have, unless they change how the GPUs cooling work, isn't gonna work out thermally if you stack two of those workstation cards on top of each other. But it doesn't say WS or "Workstation", so I suppose could be the server variant too? But also doesn't say...

Hope they have good overall cooling the case, cooling doesn't seem to be mentioned, it'll be a noisy little machine no doubt :)

wmf 8 hours ago||
They're [Max-Q] blower cards and there's a big gap between them so the cooling looks fine.
embedding-shape 8 hours ago||
So the two variants they offer is the Max-Q and the Server edition one, but only explicitly mentioned for one?

Edit: The Max-Q is one of the options, what's the other option then?

nightski 6 hours ago||
Seeing as it adds a second PSU, I'm guessing the workstation one.
embedding-shape 49 minutes ago||
That's bananas, unless they also water cool them, would easily overheat if it's just two bog standard workstation cards on top of each other.

Are they possibly selling setups they haven't actually tested practically in the real world?

rkagerer 8 hours ago||
Page mentions liquid cooling, for what it's worth.
halz 2 hours ago||
I'd really like to just buy some collective shares of a GB300 NVL72 in a datacenter somewhere and have a daily token quota on a shared DeepSeek model or whatever was hot that week. I would just need to find ~100 like-minded folks at this $40k per share price to get started haha.
swiftcoder 3 hours ago||
$37,000 in GPUs. Man, I never expected another PC manufacturer to make Apple's top configuration look cheap by comparison.
nubinetwork 1 hour ago||
Nobody seems to have noticed that they dropped their ampere-based thelio.
ethin 2 hours ago|
I absolutely love system76. Never owned one of their desktop machines, but I have a couple of their older laptops and they work fantastically for me. As in I can easily get a decade out of them and replace the batteries every few years. One of them is almost a decade old ironically enough.
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