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Posted by gaganyaan 11 hours ago

XCancel service is suspended until further notice(xcancel.com)
286 points | 570 commentspage 4
bithammerthunde 6 hours ago|
I think XCancel should use their momentum and set up their own social media network, instead of scrapping the domain.
dismalaf 6 hours ago|
Then it'll just be another Bluesky...
abirch 6 hours ago||
or mastodon...
boomboomsubban 5 hours ago||
What reason could there be that they can't share details?
immibis2 4 hours ago||
You never share information about a lawsuit unless a lawyer says you can. I'm not sure why - I presume it's because it might help the other side.
AntonyGarand 5 hours ago||
Pending legal advice I would assume
jmclnx 8 hours ago||
This to me is a big issue. You have politicians, government entities and other public institutions posting to twitter, but to access we need to log in.

There needs to be a free, non-ad, non-login environment people can use to access this information posted by public entities.

This comment also applies to facebook too, which I think is even worse than twitter.

forestingfisher 7 hours ago||
We used to have that, it was called a blog. I used to subscribe to all my local politicians and journalist blogs back in the late 2000s and would recieve everything I needed in my inbox, but now everyone posts on Twitter. That's where we have ActivityPub.
throw_m239339 7 hours ago|||
> There needs to be a free, non-ad, non-login environment people can use to access this information posted by public entities.

RSS.

DaedalusII 8 hours ago||
but how to do that without protecting the content from enemy LLM companies scraping?
jasonlotito 8 hours ago||
On the off chance someone thinks this is serious, being locked behind a login doesn't prevent your site from being scraped.
amiga386 8 hours ago|||
Indeed, the shitter authors recommended you buy a bundle of Twitter accounts with 2FA details when setting up your own instance, to avoid getting rate-limited.

There are millions of accounts for sale, roughly $0.10 per account.

https://hstockplus.com/accounts/twitter-x-accounts?sortBy=pr...

zImPatrick 8 hours ago||
This wasn‘t recommended officially by the authors, right? I saw it on someone‘s codeberg fork but not on the official repo
amiga386 7 hours ago||
Sure, let's say shitter's authors: https://codeberg.org/mv12star/shitter/wiki/Creating-session-...
immibis2 7 hours ago|||
also, public broadcasts should be scraped as much as possible
sourcecodeplz 3 hours ago||
wtf the guy payed what 40billion for this website?

yes, he can enforce whatever ToS he wants .

seatac76 4 hours ago||
Man the RSS feeds are busted too now :/
accountrequired 8 hours ago||
i just want to unmute the video and full screen it without logging in. i click twitter link and it is muted.
mw888 6 hours ago||
So are you, dear reader, for intellectual property laws or not. I see a lot of "anti-this" sentiment confused with "anti-AI [data collection]."

The consistent view is one regarding IP in general - not reverse engineering your morals based on the case.

arijun 6 hours ago|
I do take your point, that someone against using twitter for training data in AI who then uses a service that might be violating copyright seems hypocritical. But first of all, the people voicing these opinions may not be the same person, despite commenting on the same website.

But more directly addressing your point, I do think you could easily find a consistent moral stance that thinks taking tweets to train AI is worse than republishing those same tweets on a website. An argument can be made that the person writing those tweets wants to be heard, so republishing the tweet is in line with (your best guess of) what they want. Whereas consumption of the tweet for AI training is less likely to be consistent with the wants of the original author.

Grimeton 7 hours ago||
Their browser verification never made it into the same room as my browser anyway...
ImJamal 7 hours ago||
It just feels like every social media site is login-walling public posts. I can't think of a major social media site (reddit, Instagram, FB, Twitter, etc) that doesn't do this to varying degrees. I can only think of minor sites (bluesky, truth social, etc) that allow access.

It feels like an end of an era.

swed420 7 hours ago|
Reddit is still viewable, though they did finally axe "old" reddit for those not logged in.

But at least reddit still has lots of nitter-style mirrors as an alternative.

ImJamal 7 hours ago||
New reddit was getting login popups for a while as well. From my rudimentary checks it varied from subreddit to subreddit.
aaroninsf 3 hours ago|
Surprised there are still people who think the issue with "X" is that it is a bad product.

It is a bad product, and it is pathological in the way all degraded social media platforms are bad.

But it's also worse than those others, in well documented ways; and it's long past time anyone with integrity found alternatives.

The failure of the "AI" industry to do so is an indictment and serious red flag.

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