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Posted by lukaspetersson 6 hours ago

Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously(andonlabs.com)
229 points | 239 commentspage 7
veyrnox 3 hours ago|
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compiler-guy 5 hours ago||
As I write this, the submitter has six comments out of twelve, most somewhat defensive. And all of them in less than thirty minutes. This seems very much like a marketing play, where the submitter is pretty determined to steer the narrative.

I recommend flagging.

tomhow 5 hours ago|
The submitter's replies are defensive because people are accusing them of coordinated voting, which is not evident to us. The post hit the front page due to the second chance pool (https://news.ycombinator.com/pool, explained here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308), then quickly got upvotes that seem completely authentic.
compiler-guy 5 hours ago|||
It would look a lot less like astroturf if the submitter let the discussion evolve instead of answering every criticism within seconds of it being posted.
tomhow 5 hours ago|||
They're entitled to defend themselves against accusations of things they haven't done, and also to respond to questions or assertions about their project. We encourage project creators to engage in the discussions about their projects. This is a normal part of building and launching a project.
Applejinx 5 hours ago||||
From what I've seen of other AI-enabled projects interacting with forums in my field of work, it's very common for the AI people to jump in and answer every possible question and respond to every possible interaction, very quickly.

Could be just a bot doing it, but it could also be a sign of an inexperienced person trying to engage with an existing community without being part of that community. I know in my area it took years for me to learn that I shouldn't jump into every conversation, and that doing that rubbed people the wrong way, and I've seen others (many years before AI) wreck themselves by being unable to learn this lesson.

In some places responding bumps the thread so it's outright manipulative. HN doesn't sort threads like that.

I'm not sure this counts as astroturf, or simply evidence of a person who's not okay with letting a community opinion independently evolve. You could say 'well it's his job to fight the community if it looks like it's turning hostile' but think about that for a second. It takes some experience to know when you can let negativity be out there in the environment, and I think there'll be a lot of people who aren't capable of making such allowances.

arjie 5 hours ago|||
I actually like when the submitter is present and the creator. They’re actually involved. There are lots of users here who play at being submitters of high-value content (created by others) only to later submit their own entirely AI written drivel.

This is interesting.

mcmcmc 5 hours ago||||
Interesting how they’re not making any defensive replies to comments pointing out that they committed a federal crime by filing a false report to the FBI. Perhaps they know it is indefensible
mrguyorama 4 hours ago|||
Okay, why was this rescued from the 2nd chance pool? Was it from some sort of interesting discussion? Something novel enough to warrant it? A significant amount of petitions from legitimate users?
SandersAK 5 hours ago||
read it as Prion, and hoo-boy, did that seem seriously ironic.
gesgsesgs 4 hours ago||
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johnnyApplePRNG 6 hours ago||
8 points in 9 minutes?!

Bullshit...

dang come on man ...

this is obvious spam

tomhow 5 hours ago||
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49700834
silvermine 5 hours ago||
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lukaspetersson 5 hours ago||
I thought HN was good at filtering it? We didn't try to create any spam at least.
aschobel 6 hours ago||
Ah, I wonder if it makes sense to also include the sign up link in the blog post? I had to click into the HN comments section to see your sign up link
lukaspetersson 5 hours ago|
Good point. Here it is: https://andonlabs.com/pion
hartator 5 hours ago||
Don’t get the negativity here, AI will replace everything sooner or later.
mrob 5 hours ago||
And the Sun's going to engulf the Earth eventually too, but that doesn't justify arson. Let's at least try to delay the coming societal collapse/extinction of all biological life for as long as possible.
goatlover 4 hours ago||
Maybe we shouldn't want that to happen?
hermitcrab 4 hours ago||
I hope that any company that is an AI running autonomously advertises the fact, so I know not to use them.
srameshc 4 hours ago|
That is the what our corporations are aiming for !!! I think that is more important question is what is the cost to run all those Agents ?