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Posted by throw0101d 59 minutes ago

iOS 27, iPadOS 27, and macOS 27(www.apple.com)
137 points | 117 comments
Someone1234 40 minutes ago|
I've been using it for several months since the developer beta came out; overall I'm extremely positive on it. One of their better releases that seemingly focused more on quality and refinements than new-features.

Siri is definitely worth using now, even if it remains still a work-in-progress/needs continued refinement. It can surprise you in good ways, but it isn't consistently good yet.

The keyboard remains unfixed, as is tradition. The same issues they've "fixed" like three or four releases now, seemingly are identically broken, and I'm lost faith they CAN fix it.

The iOS Keyboard and Search on Windows, are like the perpetually broken things that both companies have "fixed" every year for the last ten+ years and yet... It is almost farcical as this point.

swinglock 38 minutes ago||
How is the keyboard broken? Maybe I'm so used to whatever it is that I'm blind to it.
sippeangelo 20 minutes ago|||
They have some nasty "dynamic tap zones" algorithm that dynamically resizes the hitbox for keys based on what it predicts you will type in order to reduce miss-taps. Anecdotally, it has just steadily been getting worse with every update. I swear I can be pressing the center of a key and it will select the next one over and immediately autocorrect to a completely different word than what I typed.

I had the pleasure of typing something on an Android the other day and it was such a breath of fresh air when it actually accepted the keys I was pressing...

GreekPete 9 minutes ago||
Ah, so that’s why that happens? I was gaslighting myself.
Macha 10 minutes ago||||
The best way to put it is it really wants to type what it wants to type, and if you deviate from that it will often end up just ignoring it. Whether it's the dynamic tap zones as mentioned elsewhere, or just auto correcting backwards and changing words you've already typed. Also when you go back and change a word it will also often insert additional spaces around the changed word. Or worse still if you mistype a word like say banana then backspan to ban and retype ana, it will display banana... Until you hit space and it turns it into "ban ana".
devindotcom 30 minutes ago||||
I personally use the swiping keyboard on ios and it seems to detect the wrong word with an almost malicious frequency. It also randomly Capitalizes things.
devilbunny 16 minutes ago||
For some reason, the one word that it just will not let me swipe is “and”. Which is, you know, somewhat common. I get all kinds of random things instead.
shreddit 26 minutes ago||||
Each time you type the wrong letter there’s a big chance you didn’t miss but the keyboard typed the wrong key anyway.
Macha 9 minutes ago||
Would have been totally gaslit by my iPad on this only I have an android phone to compare my typing accuracy on.
Agingcoder 25 minutes ago||||
Try an android keyboard and go back to an iphone. Having switched back and forth between both systems it’s quite remarkable how bad the iphone keyboard is. In practice , typing on an iphone means constant typos, bad autofix, and bad suggestions.
kovariantenkak 19 minutes ago||||
Typing German and Swiss German is entirely broken while English is fine on the Swiss German keyboard layout. It very often registers the wrong key even though a slow motion video shows very clearly that the finger hits the correct key initially.
schainks 22 minutes ago||||
1. Auto-correct inserts the wrong words into my sentences despite correct spelling and grammar. Think, "what a ducking joke". This has suddenly gotten better recently when it comes to typos, though.

2. The keyboard's AI will also helpfully misinterpret key presses and sub the wrong letter, which doesn't get corrected. For example, common acronyms get corrected to other acronyms I _never_ use. FFS turns into FFA regularly.

pyaamb 18 minutes ago||||
I really need the spacebar to expand slightly more on the right so my thumb doesn't miss it while typing. Wish it were customizable.
hosteur 9 minutes ago|||
This! So many times have I hit one of the keys in the row above space. I think this might actually be caused by them resizing the hitbox because I am not that fat-fingered.
misnome 15 minutes ago|||
This is the “dynamic key area” in action
gruturo 8 minutes ago||||
I have an English/Italian bilingual keyboard set up as my default.

Every single f**n time I begin a sentence with "È" (Italian for "she/he/it is") - which is an extremely deliberate gesture - you have to keep the E tapped until the accents pop up - it will immediately correct it back to an unaccented "E". It's nuts.

There is a metric ton of intent behind my selecting, keeping tapped, waiting for the accents, picking one - it's so obviously NOT accidental, and this utterly cretinous piece of junk changes it .

__patchbit__ 30 minutes ago||||
macOS has the prior keycombo for 'home' and 'end' occupied for other uses.

   command + up/down arrow
I don't know how to read to the bottom of a webpage and jump immediately to the top of page.

Plus, the global key at bottom left fails for keyboard shortcut input when defining new binding for managing windowing rearrangement.

gabagool 22 minutes ago|||
Your specific usecase has a native solve. Tap the status bar on any scrollable content view to scroll immediately to the top of the page. This has been around since, I believe, iPhone OS 1.
semiquaver 18 minutes ago||
Tap? With your fingers?
visarga 27 minutes ago||||
(adjacent to keyboard) It has no way to select all text. That makes the whole platform a toy.
neutronicus 26 minutes ago||||
It's unclear to me if they're alleging that it's recently broken. I switched to iPhone at my wife's insistence 3-4 years ago and I have pined for Swype the entire time. It's so bad and I was spoiled by Android.
WalterGR 13 minutes ago||
What do you find lacking in iOS’s swipe keyboard implementation?
Macha 8 minutes ago|||
Poor word choices. Backwards "corrections" that are incorrect.
neutronicus 7 minutes ago|||
I can't comment knowledgeably. I just regularly have to try over and over again to get it to produce the word I want, and my memory is that this happened rarely on Android.

Wait! I do have a specific criticism!

There are certain two-word sequences it will not produce ("kill myself", "white women") and I could do without that little bit of editorial oversight thank you very much.

mathisfun123 31 minutes ago|||
try using swipe-type on an android and you'll see. the funny thing is it's been this way since the iphone 1 because iphone 1 didn't have swipe-type while very early android did (via "swype").
OptionOfT 4 minutes ago|||
I had issues with the Siri Beta. I would ask it to open the garage door, and often it just... failed.

Un-enrolling from the beta fixed it.

nick_ 33 minutes ago|||
I too feel the keyboard is broken but I haven't identified exactly what is broken about it.
brainzap 7 minutes ago||
its when you type it wrong two times, and then slowly type it. Then it works.
MarkSweep 24 minutes ago|||
If the iOS keyboard is broken in terms of auto correct suggestions, try resetting its dictionary. I found it was much improved after that.
eslaught 28 minutes ago|||
What's better about it in your usage?
DerDerDaIst 31 minutes ago||
re keyboard: i don't get how the keyboard on the iphone can be so broken. meanwhile the small keyboard on the ipad works like a charm.

or am i the only one experiencing it like this?

eldenbishop 11 minutes ago||
I was starting to think I was getting old and senile with how hard typing has become on the iPhone. It's a misery. I have to type so insanely slow to have any chance of getting the right keys now. I don't have this issue on other virtual keyboards, iPad etc.
Tepix 32 minutes ago||
Was just looking over the Safari 27 release notes¹, which is part of macOS 27, and noticed this:

Web Driver

New Features

- Allow your agent to connect to a Safari browser for development and debugging via the Safari MCP server. (176038457)

Related (From July 1st)

Introducing the Safari MCP server for web developers

https://webkit.org/blog/18136/introducing-the-safari-mcp-ser...

So that's interesting. On the other hand, looks like WebXR support for Safari will never come.

---

¹ https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-not...

throw0101d 45 minutes ago||
At the bottom of the press release they have links to individual OS pages:

* iOS 27: https://www.apple.com/os/ios/

* iPadOS 27: https://www.apple.com/os/ipados/

* macOS: https://www.apple.com/os/macos/

* watchOS: https://www.apple.com/os/watchos/

* visionOS: https://www.apple.com/os/visionos/

* tvOS 27: no link.

* Overview: https://www.apple.com/os/?version=no-hero

dgellow 43 minutes ago||
Reminder to wait a couple of months before upgrading macOS! Every single time issues are found after a new macOS version, give it a little bit of time before jumping right away on your work machine :)
atonse 8 minutes ago||
I feel pretty good about the 27 series in a way I haven't in the past (I've been running iOS 27 and it's working well), except for one thing, they remove x86 support (no more Rosetta), so just keep that in mind in case that might disrupt anything for you.
dewey 29 minutes ago|||
In theory that makes sense, in practice I've never had any issues with updating on day one and it's often necessary if you want to develop for iOS / macOS anyway unless you have a dedicated developer machine.
mjhagen 25 minutes ago|||
I’ve been running it for a couple months, I’d say we’re pretty much out of danger.
gekoxyz 41 minutes ago|||
Don't worry I am still on Sonoma :)
baggy_trough 23 minutes ago|||
You don't have to! I always update the day of. So far, no regrets!
rvz 25 minutes ago||
Good advice.
seanhunter 9 minutes ago||
I love Siri's suggestions for categories in my shopping list. At the moment it puts "Dishwasher Rinse Aid" in the "Beverages" category.
Bondi_Blue 9 minutes ago||
Are they no longer publishing the complete feature list PDFs for each OS? E.g. https://www.apple.com/os/pdf/All_New_Features_iOS_26_Sept_20...
wastedpotencial 34 minutes ago||
Not updating from Sequoia until the Liquid Glass era is over.
GeekyBear 11 minutes ago||
They literally give you a new slider to increase or reduce the Liquid Glass effect to align with your personal preferences.
suprfnk 30 minutes ago||
It's really not that bad.
Cockbrand 21 minutes ago|||
I agree, despite being quite the Liquid Glass hater at first. It has grown on me, and they have ironed out the worst kinks. I still don't love it, but it's great that we're getting a bit of three-dimensionality back, after all the ambiguity that comes with the flat design trend of the decade or so before Liquid Glass.
ndiddy 13 minutes ago||||
The thing that I disliked the most about Tahoe is that they made light mode extremely bright, so it was a lot more uncomfortable to look at than Sequoia. I had to switch the computer to dark mode as a workaround. Did they fix this in Golden Gate or is light mode still too bright?
datadrivenangel 27 minutes ago||||
but it's bad enough to be worth not upgrading.
baggy_trough 21 minutes ago||
The panic is overblown.
preg_match 8 minutes ago||
The panic was, frankly, underblown at first. The first iterations of Liquid Glass were truly awful. It’s now okay, after a lot of tweaking and a LOT less “glass”. Now we have more frost.

But Liquid Glass is still broken at a conceptual level. The only way to fix it is to start all over. Which they basically are, by swapping parts of liquid glass out with every release.

nicbou 13 minutes ago||||
I just upgraded last week. For the most part, I really don't care. It was not a noticeable change.
bigyabai 27 minutes ago|||
...relative to what, Windows 11?
ChrisMarshallNY 34 seconds ago||
WatchOS, too. Not tvOS, though.
gekoxyz 44 minutes ago||
Usually I wait until december to install the new iOS on my phone, since most of the time I don't care about the upgrades. This time I installed iOS 27 beta on my phone since the public beta was out, and I had 0 new bugs compared to iOS 26, but it hasn't been the big relief that I hoped for.

Now I am worried about what the new versions of iOS will bring us, I hope that the "we removed the crap" wasn't just a thing of this year, and that iOS will go back to high software standards. Phone prices are really high for me now, and I would like for my poor little iphone 13 to survive another couple of years.

Cockbrand 41 minutes ago|
So what's your experience in terms of speed and battery life with iOS 27 on the iPhone 13 so far? I have a 13 mini, and I still haven't gotten over the (perceived) shorter battery life with iOS 26.
petesergeant 24 minutes ago||
Upgrading the battery on my iPhone 12 Pro has been a fucking revelation. I just don't run out of battery any more. I'm sure Apple was telling me it was only 20% degraded or something too, but I would strongly, strongly recommend this if thinking about battery life is currently an issue for you.
GeekyBear 27 minutes ago|
I'm looking forward to trying out Safaris new ability to vibe code extensions that will modify websites to remove annoyances.

https://www.idownloadblog.com/2026/08/27/build-safari-extens...

For developers, there is a new framework (Core AI), that updates the decade old Core ML framework.

> Core AI allows your app to use the latest model architectures and inference techniques across the CPU, GPU, and Neural Engine.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreai

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