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Posted by yusufozkan 1 day ago

A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals(www.effort.news)
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ukblewis 1 day ago|
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jackb4040 17 hours ago||
Or if it were helping a major Chinese AI firm commit cyberattacks, they would be on the state sponsors of terrorism list tomorrow
electriclove 18 hours ago|||
Hypothesis Contrary to Fact (Argumentum ad Speculum)

Red Herring

Whataboutism (Appeal to Hypocrisy)

pessimizer 15 hours ago||
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timedude 14 hours ago||
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driverdan 9 hours ago|
Every single time what? Please, be specific in what you mean.
timedude 5 hours ago||
I see you're probably not a noticer.
dools 1 day ago||
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Drupon 16 hours ago||
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seebeen 16 hours ago||
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tomhow 13 hours ago|
We've banned this account.
soaaa 12 hours ago||
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arionhardison 17 hours ago||
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partyficial 17 hours ago||
they're all men, too. and white. at least one of them is gay.

does that matter as well ?

Drupon 16 hours ago|||
Learn how entropy works, genius. No, the things you listed don't really matter.
EA-3167 16 hours ago||
So ONLY their ethnicity matters? Is that true for every ethnicity or you know… just the one.
theopat28 17 hours ago||
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pfannkuchen 16 hours ago|||
Hmm one of the major relevant cultural values seems to be nepotism, though. Which is common across many cultures and I personally believe it's human nature so I'm not knocking it, per se. I wish I could nepotism too!

So are you recommending that, for example, protestants of German descent begin preferentially funding or buying from people in their in-group? People of anglo descent should start preferring other anglos? Catholics should buy from catholics?

I think the issue is that it's considered okay for some groups to do it while simultaneously being considered EXTREMELY EVIL for other groups to do it.

We can't really recommend that other groups do it with a straight face, they would be instantly shunned and vilified.

EDIT: When I say BUY I mean B2B deals, not consumer level, hence "funding or buying". Sorry for the confusion.

theopat28 16 hours ago||
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edgyquant 16 hours ago||
That would not be nepotism and is clearly not at all what that user was saying. These attempts to smear people with low effort no longer work dude
arionhardison 17 hours ago||||
Why the new account? Why not own your opinion? Cultural values are not the point here but if they were I don't think you would have that conversation in good faith and I don't want you to have to make a another new account for your honest arguement.
arionhardison 16 hours ago|||
> Probably because it's their only account, and this story is why they are here.

If this is the case then I do apologize because my comment insinuated a directed malfeasance which would in no way be the case if what your assumption is true.

rezonant 16 hours ago||||
Probably because it's their only account, and this story is why they are here.
arionhardison 17 hours ago||||
Dude, i'm black and a convicted felon looking for a job right now. Miss me with the pity bullshit.
theopat28 17 hours ago|||
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yunwal 16 hours ago||||
> You mean they are Jewish

No you, the commenter said what they said. I honestly think this reply merits a ban or at least a warning from moderators

khazhoux 16 hours ago||||
Sadly, I’ve come to expect that 90% of the time someone points out antisemitism, it was not actually antisemitism but rather criticism of the Israeli government and its military. This is so damaging. The word is losing its meaning.
1927z218 16 hours ago||||
Apparently they are not leading in computer security then.
1928756 17 hours ago|||
That is such a primitive refutation. What is next? Blood libel?

The commenter said Israel and not Jews. Israel has a long history of intelligence operations like stealing the nuclear secrets from the US.

BTW, do you want to associate the greatest IP theft in history with Jews?

arionhardison 17 hours ago||
BTW, I literally meant "Israel" and NOT Jews. I live in Brooklyn! I do not and refuse to conflate the two as much as anyone of any group would like me to. As I am sure you know; in no way are all Jews pro Israel and definitely not pro Israeli government and I honestly feel that any assertion of such is both reductive and foments antisemitism.
nullc 1 day ago||
Leaders in the MIRI/EA cult-o-sphere have advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons against towns that don't prevent people from performing too many multiplication operations. Why is anyone surprised that they'd engage in deceptive false flagging operations?
drdeca 7 hours ago|
This is a lie, so you are either repeating a lie from someone else or lying yourself.

The people you are talking about have not advocated mass murder via nuclear weapons. The idea was precisely targeted non-nuclear strikes against only the servers themselves. (Which, would have plenty of forewarning to allow people to leave the building.)

The claim that they advocated for the use of nuclear weapons is a lie.

teach 1 day ago||
Big if true.
tannerr_dev 14 hours ago|
why am i not surprised