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Posted by berkeleyjunk 1 day ago

AWS says it can't restore some data from mideast facilities struck by Iran(www.wsj.com)
https://archive.is/Ay7RJ
421 points | 351 commentspage 4
carabiner 8 hours ago|
Everything not saved will be lost.
pembrook 5 hours ago||
Ahhh the downside of “data sovereignty” rules and the de-globalization meme strikes again. I’d bet a bajillion dollars the reason this happened is due to government thinking it’s a good idea to make it illegal to store data outside their country.

Hey EU, take note of this next time you create silly data residency requirements that don’t allow data to travel outside your region. Encryption is an easy solution to multi-region residency…as long as the European Commission doesn’t stupidly keep trying to make encryption illegal too!

Hint: Russia absolutely knows where your data centers are.

pjc50 2 hours ago||
This is a valid point if you're not so confrontational about it.
WA 4 hours ago||
The EU is big enough to have several geographically independent data centers. without leaving the sovereign territory.
pembrook 4 hours ago||
Yes there’s never been division or wars in Europe and the EU will always exist…

Germany and France in a debt spiral and turning inward/hyper-nationalist while massively re-militarizing means the EU is a safe place to structure your data with zero redundancy.

I wouldn’t bother worrying about key industries and functions, since, as history has shown, the EU is a bulletproof institution that no country has ever left.

And of course every data center in Europe has Israel-grade air defenses, it’s not like they are just sitting ducks for a fleet of drones to take out within 24 hours.

rvz 14 hours ago||
Backup both locally and everywhere no matter what.
burnt-resistor 14 hours ago||
50%+ of companies that lose all of their data go out of business in 6 months.

DR/BCP costs are readily justified by doing a Business Impact Analysis (BIA).. budget up to some fraction of risk cost * risk probability.

And a friendly reminder that replication isn't a tested data backup.

chews 1 day ago||
I'm sorry but your data is in another castle.
Chance-Device 14 hours ago|
This should have been in that super Dario game.
phendrenad2 13 hours ago||
Uh.

Uh-oh.

It's not clear from their messaging if multiple availability zones were severely damaged, or if the damage to one availability zone was simply more than they planned for. If it's the latter, that's a big uh-oh.

The wording certainly seems very careful:

"The damage to our infrastructure spanned multiple availability zones and exceeded what our regional and multi-AZ services are designed to withstand"

SmirkingRevenge 14 hours ago||
It was always a bad bet for billionaires like Bezos to become Trump enablers. You weren't buying a seat at the table, or the privilege of being left alone, you were just signing yourself up to be force-fed shit sandwiches over and over (And the shit-to-bread ratio gets worse as time goes on)

You should have used your considerable resources to fight. If only billionaires would oppose aspiring tyrants with the same zeal with which they oppose even minor tax increases.

mitxela 12 hours ago||
Bezos hasn't lost anything from this. He's only gotten richer.
SmirkingRevenge 4 minutes ago||
Well, he did lose some data centers. Those aren't cheap.

The sort of global instability that is being created by all this is bad for everyone. It generally isn't good for business either.

We're so unstable and capricious now, countries are actually trying to decouple from American tech services like AWS and Amazon. That ain't great for Bezos.

Maybe inertia kicks in after Trump and things revert to the mean, but restoring confidence in the US again as a friendly, stable nation is going to be tough if we're always 4 years away from another Trump-type figure running the show.

CamperBob2 13 hours ago||
He had little choice. The Trump tariffs could've been a massive, massive blow to Amazon, so I'm sure he felt he had to get out in front of them and buy some influence with the incoming administration.

See also Tim Cook. Doesn't make it right to suck up to Trump, but it was, and unfortunately still is, a rational move.

crate_88 11 hours ago||
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