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Posted by nashashmi 5 days ago

Minimal Phone 2(minimalcompany.com)
328 points | 258 commentspage 2
drnick1 4 days ago|
Pixel a-series with GrapheneOS is already the "minimal phone" for hackers: cheap, reasonably small, hardened OS without Google spyware and bloatware. Compatibility with Android is fully retained so you can run things like Wireguard, Termux, Home Assistant and a myriad of other excellent FOSS (or non-FOSS) apps with complete sovereignty over your data.
port-tcp 1 day ago||
I do truly believe phones, social media, portable news, notifications, attention-grabbing designs are a disease to our brains and whole society, so I like the idea of a phone designed to reduce use, but still have access to some things we can no longer avoid like 2FA codes, banking apps, maps, etc etc.

I realise many full android and iOS phones have features that allow you to reduce usage, but there’s a difference between something designed to do it, and something that just adds some easy bypassable settings on top. From what I read about this you have to factory reset your phone to bypass the restrictions you setup (if you choose that mode) so it seems cool to me.

troyvit 4 days ago||
I was hoping this was minimal enough for somebody with dementia to use to make calls, but when they say "Phone" they don't mean like the old folks do.

I kept reading though, kind-of envying the physical keyboard because that would be fun, but I'm a swipe-typing guy through and through. Then I saw that it supports swipe typing, possibly by sliding your fingers across the keyboard. The idea of swiping across those keys literally gave me frisson, won't lie. That would be so groovy.

panja 5 days ago||
I just wish I could get an answer from them on why a brand new phone is missing some pretty important LTE/5G bands in the US
littlecranky67 5 days ago||
Well because the phone is not supposed to be used for mindless doomscrolling but calling. Highspeed not needed.
platybubsy 4 days ago|||
Won't missing bands affect the reliability as well, not just the speed?
hurfdurf 4 days ago||||
In the USA there's only VoLTE/VoNR via 4G/5G, 2G and 3G networks have been shut down a while ago.
ac29 4 days ago||
Which ones? I was prepared to complain about this as well but it supports every band under 3GHz on my carrier
snazz 4 days ago||
It would probably work on T-Mobile and maybe on Verizon, but it’s missing b14, b30, and b29 which are definitely required for AT&T (not to mention AT&T’s whitelist). Also weird that it doesn’t have any 5G FDD bands other than n71.

Edit: Verizon would also benefit from b48, although that may be optional.

gered 4 days ago||
The most exciting thing for me about this phone is the physical size. It's not a "phablet" like every other phone these days, it's basically Nexus 4 sized (perfect size for my big hands) which means easy one-handed use.

Not sure if I will actually get one since my Pixel 4a 5g (w/ LineageOS + microG) is still going strong, but I will admit that I'm tempted by this.

Grombobulous 4 days ago|
Have you ever used a PopSocket? I highly recommend them.

I think many people who use them start to realize that having a small phone isn’t that great. Having more screen real estate and a larger battery is so much more beneficial than being able to reach everything with one hand, and then the popsocket pretty much solves the one hand issue.

I can reach the top of my screen with my iPhone 17 Pro Max because my phone has a PopSocket on the back, and my fingers are below average short.

classictraffic 4 days ago||
One thing that is bugging me (and maybe it's buried on the website somewhere but I missed it) is that I can't figure out what version of Android the phone uses. I wouldn't buy a phone relying on an older version of it
mgdev 4 days ago||
I want to believe, but the first phone was like six months late with no/bad comms, and when it came it was barely usable due. I believe in the mission but have lost some faith here.

I hope they prove me wrong so I can buy Minimal Phone 3!

wuhhh 5 days ago||
I would like more information on what Degoogled means and whether it’s still possible to install 3rd party apps by some other means. Nice looking device, I expected it to cost more. Also, does this only work in the US rn?
dwedge 5 days ago|
I kind of like the idea of this being a reflash to install apps, if that's how it works it makes it more intentional.

Though you can probably just install Aurora Store or F-Droid and install from there. Some apps don't work (you'll notice they didn't show Uber in the examples) and recently I've been having issues with Aurora and suspect its days are numbered so I'd be concerned about the future of that before buying something like this.

mr_machine 1 day ago||
The hardware looks amazing and I covet it.

The lack of substantial info on Minimal OS makes it a non-starter, though, and that makes me sad. Security and privacy are job #1 for a smartphone, and there's no way I'm running El Rando OS just because the hardware is cute.

If they partnered with Graphene OS, I'd happily pay twice their asking price, though.

steanne 5 days ago|
i really feel like the website for a minimal phone should be at least somewhat viewable without javascript.
weikju 4 days ago||
They might have been unable to do it due to Claude Code’s training.
kkihygginug 5 days ago|||
Minimal ≠ simple
ymsodev 4 days ago||
Right, minimal means only having what you actually need. That is not what this website is.
crabmusket 5 days ago||
Minimalist phone, maximalist website.
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