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Posted by emigre 3 hours ago

Human brain is two separate organs, Stanford Medicine-led research finds(med.stanford.edu)
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softgrow 3 hours ago|
We are going to have to deprecate an idiom or two. "I'm in two minds about something" now gives the wrong meaning.
readthenotes1 3 hours ago|
Not to mention the gut brain-- That's the organ I blame for the ice cream I just ate
patates 3 hours ago|||
The best way to stop eating ice cream is to stop buying ice cream. If it's in the freezer, it'll be eaten.
joshmn 1 hour ago|||
But how do you stop buying ice cream?
samus 48 minutes ago|||
Fill your freezer with frozen food other than ice cream.
Matumio 1 hour ago||||
You buy your groceries while that piece of your brain has no excuse to make loud demands ;-)
exe34 1 hour ago|||
Eat your dinner before going to the shop.
polotics 2 hours ago|||
I think there is a better way: The colder something is, the less sweet it will taste. if you warm-up ice cream and taste how sickeningly sweet that soup is, you won't be having so much for a while...
dotancohen 7 minutes ago|||
The best ice cream I ever had was at a small shop in Athens that had unsweetened ice cream.
vanderZwan 1 hour ago|||
I think that adipose tissue is the biggest criminal when it comes to unwanted hunger, since it produces hormones to make you hungry the moment you actually risk losing weight.

Not sure how much the digestive neurons are involved with hunger actually, I thought its role was more about telling you which foods make you nauseous so you won't eat them, or subconsciously register which nutrients various foods have so you'ld crave the ones compensating for shortages more.

samus 44 minutes ago||
I heard adipose tissue also retains hormones and fat-soluble pollutants, and losing weight sets them free and have to be dealt with by the body in other ways. Specifically, the hormones can cause mood swings, which some individuals have learned to react to with binge eating.
proc0 3 hours ago||
I can see how one of these is the gut feelings origin, and other bodily feelings.
celadonuproot 2 hours ago||
And that's why we oftentimes talk about "brains" in the plural
soVeryTired 1 hour ago||
Wintermute and neuromancer!
nephihaha 2 hours ago||
I went to see Michael Gazzanigga talk about hemispheric separation some years ago. Fascinating. The two hemispheres can operate separately.
jibal 2 hours ago||
The title is factually incorrect and is not what the research actually found:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-026-02433-7

Title: "Two parallel neural ectoderm progenitors contribute to the developing brain".

"Hence, we postulate the brain is a composite organ emanating from two lineage-restricted progenitors; these dual progenitors may be evolutionarily conserved across 550 million years from hemichordates to mammals."

johnnienaked 2 hours ago||
A bicameral mind cool
linzhangrun 1 hour ago|
Actually, the mind should only exist in the forebrain:0
drabbiticus 2 hours ago||
It's cool, but the headline is really pretty misleading.

The new result seems to be that researchers have identified different progenitors for fore/midbrain vs. hindbrain and have found that they can be identified by some specific developmental gene markers. That's genuinely cool.

However, organs are not typically defined by a single tissue characterized by a progenitor that can be labeled with a single gene marker. I suppose it's fine if on a functional and anatomical level you want to split the fore/midbrain and hindbrain into two different "organs", but whether you think of the brain as 1 organ or 2, it really doesn't change much in terms of how you would think about these regions.

It isn't at all surprising that different regions of the brain have localized functions; some of the earliest evidence of this was how focal injuries (like strokes) have characteristic deficit patterns depending on brain region affected, and obviously there has been a lot of work since then further showing the organization, function and development of different brain regions.

samus 43 minutes ago|
The impact is rather that is explains the failure of attempts to cultivate cell cultures of brainstem cells.
geuis 3 hours ago|
This isn't peer reviewed, just a press release. 10 other "papers" will be published in the next 2 weeks counterfinding anything in this post.

Science moves forward yet again with a few backward steps.

ykl 2 hours ago||
Here is the peer reviewed publication in Nature Neuroscience:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-026-02433-7

The peer reviewed publication is linked to from the press release. The press release's headline does somewhat overhype up the actual finding though. The actual finding is that different parts of the brain arise from different neural ectoderm progenitors, which explains why it’s so hard to get a forebrain neuron to behave like a hindbrain neuron and vice versa in the lab. The paper then postulates that this difference in progenitors resembles being two different organs evolutionarily, but this is not really the most important part of the paper.

BTW I suspect that this finding comes as completely unsurprising to biologists and the medical field generally. I'm not in either field, but even in high school biology we learned that the brain stem is behaviorally and structurally radically different from the rest of the brain, to the point where it seems almost obvious in hindsight that it's a different cell line and potentially has a different evolutionary history from the rest of the brain.

pazimzadeh 2 hours ago||
I thought the PR article did a decent job or saying just that, except maybe for the title
ykl 2 hours ago||
Yeah, agreed. It's mostly just the title that is overhyped.
pazimzadeh 2 hours ago||
no idea what you're talking about.

watson and crick's paper was not peer reviewed, neither were darwin's papers.

not sure what you think happens in peer review but it's probably overrated.

nephihaha 2 hours ago||
The problem right now is that there aren't enough peer reviewers.
pazimzadeh 1 hour ago||
I don't think that's the problem.

One problem is that there's no good incentive to spend significant time doing good peer review.