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Posted by choult 1 day ago

ZuckOff is a free app that sees Meta glasses before they see you(www.wired.me)
https://zuckoff.app/
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QGQBGdeZREunxLe 18 hours ago|
Is this for a specific model or is this a General Zuckoff?
solenoid0937 1 day ago||
These glasses are amazing for capturing memories on vacations, way nicer than using my phone camera.
gspr 1 day ago|
How convenient, so to hell with the privacy of everyone around you then.
bennyelv 8 hours ago|||
You’ll have to explain how it’s different to recording something on any other phone or camera system…
solenoid0937 1 day ago||||
There's a bright blinking light on my face telling them they're being recorded - and they have their phones out and are recording anyways! There are a lot of assumptions baked into your comment.

What's with HN becoming so saturated with snarky cynical one line quips? I don't think I've ever seen a worse comment section.

Urahandystar 1 day ago||
Its not a battle you are going to win, This is pretty much the state of things but everyone old enough remembers when the same was said about camera phones, Drones and Uber being unsafe. Eventually usage means these comments will fall and then everyone will forget as it becomes normal.
Ylpertnodi 1 day ago|||
You expect privacy in public?
RiverCrochet 1 day ago|||
Why not? Something that can do facial recognition + location tracking + keep and instantly transmit related digital records to a third party should be considered an invasion of privacy even if in public.
bennyelv 8 hours ago|||
You’ll need to ban all cameras then. None of that is strictly related to glasses with a camera in themZ
solenoid0937 1 day ago|||
Every phone on the planet does this by default today. I don't see the delta between these glasses and someone taking a picture with their Pixel.
RiverCrochet 17 hours ago|||
Both items in scope as far as I'm concerned. I'm fine with glasses and uncovered phone cameras in picture-taking position being treated the same way from a privacy violation standpoint. Maybe we can also do something about phone speakers at max volume in inappropriate places as well.
JsonDemWitOster 22 hours ago||||
So why not just take a picture with your Pixel, Mr. Bond?
solenoid0937 4 hours ago||
Why not use an abacus to browse the web?
gspr 23 hours ago|||
Someone capturing a single frame with a phone is smaller in volume, and more easily spotted and socially punished than someone recording video with glasses.
bennyelv 8 hours ago||
Why is it smaller in volume? Sure that’s the decision of the person and has nothing to do with the device?

When phones first had cameras, and people were not aware, it would have been easier to secretly film. But news flash, where I’m sitting right now in a cafe full of tech workers, nobody would notice if I started secretly filming on my phone.

If I wanted to secretly film, I’d be more confident of getting away with it using my phone than with a set of glasses which have a flashing light on them.

gspr 23 hours ago|||
Yes. To an extent.
throwaway85825 1 day ago||
A better solution would be a miniaturized quadrf style device that could see radio sources and overlay them.
partiallypro 1 day ago||
I think the panic around smart glasses cameras is so strange, it's SO much easier to be a creep with a phone recording. You'll see it all the time if you're paying attention. Everyone is already on their phones anyhow, and especially with "creep shots" your head is a massive giveaway; with a smart phones, not so much, it can be placed anywhere. What practically could someone record without their knowledge that isn't already widely and more easily available through a smartphone? I just don't get it.

I do understand recording maybe during a sexual act or something without knowledge, but even that is probably just as easy with a phone. Feels like everyone is focusing on the wrong thing, given that level of privacy has already been eradicated and no one is going to give up their phones.

pbasista 1 day ago||
There is no "panic". It is more a realization that it is becoming difficult to notice recording devices.

I assume the most problematic scenarios are private. Private meetings. Private conversations. Private encounters of every kind in general. Environment in which ordinary people used to have good enough confidence that, unless they see a phone or a camera, they are not being recorded. It no longer is that simple.

Confirming, at least to some extent, that there is no recording going on may now require confronting the other person. And asking them to remove their glasses or hand them over for inspection might be considered rude.

As a result, I think that it might make people more suspicious and less trusting, especially when meeting new people for the first time.

mattnewton 1 day ago||
Your phone has to be out of your pocket and raised up to record me, which I can notice.
solenoid0937 1 day ago||
You can't notice a bright blinking light on someone's face?
mattnewton 1 day ago||
It is less noticeable in person than a phone out and pointed at you yes. And I would react similarly.
bennyelv 8 hours ago||
Disagree. It’s very context dependent which would be more noticeable.

Maybe the reason you think it’s harder to spot when you’re being recorded on glasses is because… it’s never actually happened to you. The people who are creeps are in the minority, and they’re executing their creepy behaviour independently of the technology available to them.

marcosscriven 1 day ago||
As much as I despise Meta and concerned about privacy, I’ve not found anything better for recording snippets of my glider flights than the Meta glasses.

I don’t post them anywhere (except occasionally to friends or family in direct messages).

I fly club gliders and can’t really attach a camera easily. And in any case the PoV is a useful learning tool. I can check I was doing lookout properly, I can see the instruments clearly and so forth.

I have a second pair of normal glasses that I always swap to when I’m back on the ground.

PUSH_AX 1 day ago|
The principal is a very cool bit of technology. There are authoritative blindness and eyesight medical institutions that are claiming this technology is great for people suffering from eye issues.

The shouting match is being loudly won by people decrying the technology however, people can receive physical and verbal abuse on the streets for wearing them which is pretty scary.

Eisenstein 1 day ago||
The people who need them for sight issues can paint them bright green or something.
swrrt 1 day ago||
Does someone want to make this into a product and selling to people?
KellyCriterion 1 day ago||
It says:

> Flags camera glasses by their manufacturer signature <

How is this guaranteed to be not spoofed?

wongarsu 1 day ago||
Anyone can get a $5 bluetooth-capable ESP32 and set its bluetooth mac to one in the range used by smart glasses. Not sure why you'd do that though.

The other direction is trickier. You'd have to modify the firmware of the smart glasses to set a different mac, or at least gain arbitrary code execution with hardware access on the glasses. That's well beyond what the average smart glass user will do

And at that point, it'd be mostly about the heads-up display anyways. Somebody who is determined to record you without your knowledge has far easier paths available to them. Just get one of those lighters or ear-rings or car key fobs with built-in camera

dubcanada 1 day ago|||
Where does it say that is guaranteed? Nobody can guarantee that.
IAmBroom 1 day ago||
Are you really worried you might be filmed by an off-brand pair of glasses, instead of a genuine Meta pair?
jan_m_savage 1 day ago||
love this. We need more anti-privacy gizmos like this!
ChrisRR 1 day ago|
Surely this is anti-anti-privacy?
jan_m_savage 1 day ago||
Oh yes my bad. That's what I had meant but I was distracted and didn't notice. Thanks.
LightBug1 1 day ago||
v2.0 ... auto-project two middle fingers at the recording camera, in place of the recorded subjects face.
mrlonglong 1 day ago|
Upvoted for the best lulz of the day.
bdavbdav 1 day ago|
This is fantastic.
wafflez 1 day ago|
This is slop.
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