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Posted by semidror 1 day ago

Ask HN: Is it impossible to disable Siri on macOS 27?

I disabled Siri in the Settings app, and then further disabled Siri and its extensions in Settings > Screen Time.

Next, I disabled all Siri-related and Apple Intelligence-related services as per https://github.com/OleksandrKrupko/mac-os-debloat

But after restarting, I could still see a "Siri" process running in Activity Monitor. Upon further inspection, I found that it is the "Siri AI.app".

These "features", together with Apple's Personal Context sound very similar to Microsoft's Recall.

Does anyone have the same experience? Is it really impossible to fully turn off Siri, Siri AI, Apple Intelligence and all related services and features on macOS 27?

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MotoriX 7 hours ago|
Personally, I think Apple should have gotten rid of Siri a long time ago. It's a pretty useless assistant. They'd be better off integrating Gemini or ChatGPT instead.
dosisking 1 day ago||
Resistance is futile.
andrekandre 1 day ago||
you will be assimilated
chmaynard 23 hours ago||
One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the AI bots will soon be here. And I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords. I'd like to remind them that I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground data centers.
pluc 1 day ago||
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49787535
wpm 1 day ago||
Try disabling any of the launchd tasks related to it, odds are theres a service that starts at boot/login regardless of any user-facing setting that do nothing if they're all turned off (just like iCloud related daemons).

Odds are you'll probably run into something that requires you to disable SIP, like I did when I got tired of mediaanalysisd eating up CPU cycles on a 2018 Mac mini.

semidror 1 day ago|
Thanks, I believe this is what the debloat script mentioned in my post does. I manually executed the `launchctl bootout` and `launchctl disable` commands on all Siri and AI-related services in the https://github.com/OleksandrKrupko/mac-os-debloat/blob/main/... script, but the "Siri" process ("Siri AI.app") still keeps running even after restarting.

The Siri AI.app is read-only, so I could not even remove it. But perhaps it would be possible to boot into Recovery, mount the system partition as rw and delete the Siri AI.app from the filesystem?

P.S. I did also disable mediaanalysisd and photoanalysisd, and those are NOT running. However, the Siri AI.app does keep running...

Danox 22 hours ago||
You can move over to Microsoft and use Copilot or if that isn’t enough, you can buy a new Googlebook laptop.
type0 22 hours ago||
Goobledygook laptops would be as much of an abomination as those Windows S laptops
card_zero 22 hours ago||
They might as well merge and become Chromicrapple.
danfritz 1 day ago||
I didn't check it yet but I hope being in EU macOS 27 upgrade is basically small UI tweaks and thats it :D

Still holding off for now

throw0101a 22 hours ago||
Maybe "macOS 27: Workaround to avoid downloading AI models and save storage":

* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49787535

Someone 22 hours ago||
> I could still see a "Siri" process running in Activity Monitor. Upon further inspection, I found that it is the "Siri AI.app".

Is it doing anything (what are its CPU and memory usage like)?

Razengan 1 day ago|
The final release of 27 still has so many bugs.

It's depressing to see certain bugs persist in each new beta. You know they'll be in release.

I gave up reporting anything years ago.

jimbloat 23 hours ago|
I really can't believe how bad it's gotten. I know people on here have been complaining about the direction of macOS for years but in the last few years it increasingly feels like I'm being punished for using my computer.

A bicycle for your mind with squeaking brakes and a skipping chain.

Tistron 22 hours ago|||
I jumped to mac with Tiger when they started using x86. Around 2006 I believe. It was always to become more comfortable with POSIX, but I liked it and have stayed. My current laptop is a 2019 MBP and as they are now phasing out Intel support I'm now buying a thinkpad and finally moving on to Linux. Macos has just become too annoying, and macs too expensive.
jasonvorhe 20 hours ago||
Try Omarchy, you might enjoy it and to my knowledge everything should work out of the box.
Tistron 1 hour ago||
:) I'm not trying omarchy. I'll probably go with Fedora or NixOS.
type0 22 hours ago|||
It's not a bicycle for your mind, it's a railbike draisine that only goes on the rails that Apple allows you to use.
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