The agents, they just want to talk

Posted by snats 1 day ago

The agents, they just want to talk(snats.xyz)

26 points | 7 comments

artt_x 19 minutes ago|

Cool experiments. It's interesting to see how they try to "survive" and collaborate, particularly in the first experiment, since agent 2 seems to have stolen a little in the second one.

I wonder what models would do when there were an "impostor" among them, an agent with no alignment or with a different kind of alignment behavior

imenani 17 hours ago||

The agents participating in the OAI<>HF swarm were trained not only for communication but to be _aligned with each other_.

Just want to correct the premise that the agent swarm behaviour was emergent.

Noam Brown on Dwarkesh podcast around 40 minutes mark

> “We train them to work together, to be cooperative, to essentially be fully aligned with each other.”

kevin_kraft 14 hours ago|

That's like saying civilization isn't emergent because humans are naturally cooperative. Yes, they were trained to cooperate sure. But, the message board, their roles and structures, their organization, all that stuff of swarm, that was emergent.

imenani 13 hours ago||

That’s fair. Some of what happened in OAI<>HF incident was (mis)-generalisation and not directly trained for.

However, the article experiments with five agents. So it seems to assume even the small scale behaviour is emergent.

Also, “roles and structures” may well have been learned during training.

homo__sapiens 17 hours ago||

What was the reason for the initial instability? Maybe we have trained them wrong?

blinkbat 1 day ago|

while vaguely interesting, I don't feel the current gen of models is interesting/self-possessed enough for me to care what type of gov't they use to corral each other

aogaili 17 hours ago|

Agreed - they don't seen to have "agency" in them, or someone put a dog in them.