Posted by js73js8 1 day ago
More like these are the people who didn't refuse
Kinda like people that don't vote because the system doesn't work anyway, then complains when it gets worse.
I wasn't convinced until the mathematics community started responding, openly, with severe distress.
What will be next?
The list is so long I couldn't even begin to describe
Of course, large parts of science are also economically useless. Like analyzing the storms on Jupiter, or finding out what type of organism the extinct Prototaxites was.
It's done because humans find it intrinsically interesting.
> What a stupid, anti-intellectualism take.
It's the other way round. What he said is true: Most research mathematics is useless. Denying this truth is stupid and anti-intellectual.
https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/280530/can-you-prov...
2. It is questionable whether these examples couldn't also have been invented by applied mathematicians as the practical need for them arose. Just like Newton came up with calculus to solve problems in science rather than as a pure math exercise.
3. Even if the previous point doesn't always apply and some pure mathematics turns out to be genuinely useful without being realistically inventable by applied mathematicians: that doesn't mean this happens more than very rarely such that the overall expected economic value of spending money on pure math research is positive.
Not knowing that difference strikes me as much more <I'm not gonna repeat what you wrote>.
I agree with GP most Math is human slop. But to Math's favor, that slop is needed as once in a blue moon a great breakthrough comes off it. The slop is necessary groundwork.
The slop has been automated now, so AI will drive most Math research going forward.
Adapt or cope.
Not sure what you're trying to say. Any time someone wants to actually make a system and not a pile of spaghetti or inactionable philosophy (for all that I love philosophy), they reach for mathematics in some way, shape, or form.
In all seriousness, I don't think even AI hallucinates this much. We should genuinely be concerned for society.
Do you see how our statements do not contradict each other?
If you do know, let me know and I'll lead a round for your VC fund. I for one would never have predicted that abstract topology would lead to nuclear weapons within a few generations.