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Posted by volf_ 2 days ago

MiMo v2.6(mimo.xiaomi.com)
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EtienneDeLyon 2 days ago|
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pbhuniadelhi 1 day ago||
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unpopularopp 2 days ago||
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InsideOutSanta 2 days ago||
It's funny, I have the exact opposite reaction. This is probably misguided on my part, but Xiaomi is one of the very few major tech companies that I don't have an immediate strong negative reaction to. Everything I've bought from them, from robot vacuum to mobile phone, has been reasonably well designed, didn't break, and was priced fairly. I also think their car looks badass.

I'm sure they're doing all kinds of terrible things, like all major companies. I just can't help but like them. Also, this model looks great, and I'll give their subscription a shot next month.

A_D_E_P_T 2 days ago|||
I must second this.

I'm in Europe, and here the options for home appliances are usually German (e.g. Philips), Balkan (e.g. Gorenje), or Xiaomi. Xiaomi is the best by far, and it's honestly not even close.

Their home appliances are so rock-solid that they actually still surprise me. For example: I've gone from having to replace electric water kettles every six months to buying one from Xiaomi and never replacing it. (Nigh on three years now.)

I really have a very positive impression of them.

girvo 1 day ago|||
My only gripe with them is how they locked down their m365 scooters, made repairing it a pain.
platinumrad 2 days ago|||
It's a big company, like Microsoft or Google. Some of their products are good and some are bad.
verdverm 2 days ago||
ironic to this thread, I have less bloatware and ads since I switched from Verzion to Pixel on Fi (many years ago)

Curious if Verizon / ATT still force apps on your phone, eg. NFL and Amazon apps, Fi service is subpar

algoth1 2 days ago|||
I still have a xiaomi mi 11 lite, my wife has a 15t. The cameras are the best for the price. The way they chove ads down your throat at every opportunity should be illegal though
bel8 2 days ago||
Which model did you have?

I ask because my wife has the 15T and the camera is better than my iPhone 17 Pro. And while toying around with it I didn't notice any bloat.

Plus hers support native split screen which I kinda need to multitask on the go.

I'm so pissed at how bad Siri is compared to her android phone that I'm thinking about selling the iPhone to get a Huawei Pura Ultra.

omani 2 days ago||
ah, would you look at that. I was wondering why mimo 2.5 became "dumber" the last weeks. I was speculating they are probably about to release a new version of the model. because the model really acted out a lot. especially the last two weeks. dont know, was just a feeling, highly speculative.

but now I got my "proof".

sandblast 2 days ago||
I guess that would only be possible if your provider was Xiaomi itself?
omani 2 days ago||
yes. I use opencode and opencode uses Xiaomi as a provider.
omani 1 day ago||
after trying MiMo 2.6 Flash: unfortunately it ends up in infinite loops.
paperboy10000 2 days ago||
The Xiaomi always somehow lacks the quality of competitors. mobile phones are lower quality or weird. the login reset mechanism sucks. If I can't even login, how good this system is supposed to be.

They are excellent in marketing, I guess that is something.

jwpapi 2 days ago|
In the chart they use "Pareto Line", which I think is wrong. Pareto is 20% effort leading to 80% results. Which could be interpreted as models costing 20% having 80% of peak intelligence, but that’s not what it looks like to me.

It looks like the "Frontier Line" to me, which is also often misinterpreted. frontier does not mean the best models. It means all models that are not strictly dominated, meaning in most cases: Not same price or cheaper and more intelligent.

I personally would like the word frontier to be used with more criterias: Open Weights, per use-case, etc etc. This would make model selection easier, but I understand it’s not an easy thing to do.

abound 2 days ago||
There are two (or more) concepts named after the same person:

- Pareto efficiency/Pareto curves: Basically the convex hull of points along the edge of a graph, indicating the best tradeoff between the axes. This is what the post is talking about.

- Pareto principle: this is the 80/20 rule you're talking about

shmolyneaux 2 days ago|||
This is the Pareto Front [1], rather than the Pareto principle. It's the idea that anything that's more intelligent is more expensive and anything that's less expensive is less intelligent.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_front

nextaccountic 2 days ago|||
No, Pareto refers to Pareto efficiency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_efficiency

What you call "frontier line" is also called "Pareto frontier" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_front

Your description of it is basically correct though

hashmush 2 days ago|||
"Pareto" is many things, but here it does indeed refer to the frontier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_front
jwpapi 2 days ago||
Thank you guys. I learned something new.