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Posted by possibilistic 15 hours ago

Spymarks, Not Watermarks(brand.io)
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Ennea 6 hours ago|
Reminds me of Blizzard embedding data inside World of Warcraft screenshots (link goes to a small write-up from 2012 in a forum focused on video game cheats; sorry, could not find a better source): https://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-...
world2vec 4 hours ago||
Way offtopic but I like the light/dark mode of that website with several very sensible choices.
itake 6 hours ago||
Apple rejected my app for removing c2pa metadata.

I don't think its fair to say that metadata on apps will be safely removable in the future.

initramfs 11 hours ago||
https://web.archive.org/web/20210909094124/https://www.vice....
edg5000 12 hours ago||
A lot of the discussion is about AI vs no AI, which is valid, but I care about local AI vs centralized AI. Hopefully hardware will become more affordable. A hopefully irrational fear I have is that it'll be like house prices: only ever goes up.
red369 10 hours ago|
Off topic, on the house price fear - the bubble does occasionally burst! Japan (famously), and also here's a story about Canada & New Zealand, and perhaps Australia.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-08-18/what-happens-if-prope...

account42 5 hours ago|||
That's more like the bubble slightly deflating.
lifestyleguru 4 hours ago||||
We cannot pay for your porsch and your kids' education only because we have to live somewhere. We're tired boss.
edg5000 9 hours ago|||
That's true indeed
amelius 4 hours ago||
This is what we should have used so we could practically claim the output of AI ignored our copyright.
layer8 14 hours ago||
Weirdly the article doesn’t mention steganography. Arguably it isn’t quite the same, because the aim of steganography isn’t typically to add an identification, but something like “steganomark” would seem to be fitting.
latexr 5 hours ago|
> something like “steganomark” would seem to be fitting.

Might be technically more accurate, but it’s an inscrutable name with no chance of proliferation beyond technical people. If the goal is to rally people to your position, you need a name people can identify.

miladyincontrol 7 hours ago||
Tbh I usually just apply a 'watermark' of jpg compression to images, even if yes the original image never lives as jpg. Easily viewable with ELA even if saved as other formats, resized, etc.
injidup 8 hours ago||
Wouldn't synthid type watermarking fall under GDPR. Personally identifiable information attached by third party to content in the expectation that it would be published and trackable?
emsixteen 36 minutes ago||
Curious about this as well, would love some knowledgeable folks to chime in.
j16sdiz 8 hours ago||
GDPR have lots of board exemption.

When some processing is required by eu or eu member state law, that processing doesn't need explicit consent.

One could also argue the watermark tracks the generated content, not the person

anon48293 8 hours ago||
That’s not how it works. If it can uniquely identify the user it’s personal information as per GDPR. And therefore illegal in this implementation.
shevy-java 14 hours ago|
> A watermark is a visible mark embedded in a physical or digital medium to verify authenticity or assert ownership.

We also recently had this with LG spy-TVs. Cars here in the EU also spy on people, allegedly to show how alert they are. Perhaps they sneakily upload that information somewhere ... Facebook also has the spy-glasses now. People getting angry about Flock-spy-cameras.

It seems we are now in the age of spying of everyone at all times. Future spying will be done via even smaller devices.

snvzz 9 hours ago|
People are most afraid of cameras, somehow.

The concern is valid, but microphones are far worse. They're simpler, smaller, extremely sensitive to sound and an order of magnitude cheaper, both the mic itself as well as any spying with it.

It is possible to record voice using few bytes, to send later. It's further possible to transcribe cheaply into text, and analyze said text.

And mics are already everywhere, including in devices that do not need them, as well as speakers that can be rewired by software to act as microphones.

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