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Posted by doubletwoyou 2 days ago

The "Windows XP Box" (2003)(www.mini-itx.com)
179 points | 33 comments
projektfu 11 hours ago|
This was my favorite build from that site: https://www.mini-itx.com/projects/psu-pc/
tosti 5 hours ago||
Back then, a computer case like that often came pre-equipped with a PSU. To save a little money around the turn of the milennium I'd buy the cheapest case they had (IIRC CoolerMaster was very affordable) and just use the PSU it shipped with.

So it really does look exactly like a spare case and no actual computer present.

close04 4 hours ago||
Back then this was quite a bit of effort and engineering (especially the bootloader auto detection) to achieve and probably got a lot of wowed faces. Today nobody would bat an eye, you can cram anywhere a tiny PC or even stick PC, and maybe have a single USB-C cable sticking out.
naggie 4 hours ago||
Wow I remember this being covered in Custom PC, a magazine in the UK.

I emailed the author to get the modified bootloader source code that he mentions at the end to allow the dual boot between XP and red-hat via a hardware switch. It was magic to me at the time as a 13 year old! I probably still have the code somewhere.

There was something special about Mini-ITX machines at the time, nothing was that small.

hypercube33 1 hour ago||
I miss the scene and custom cases. MN PCTech still exists and I love reading their builds. It was more of an art to craft custom cases but the payoff was showing up to a lan party with a custom case no one else has.
bayindirh 2 hours ago||
Also, it was the last serious push of VIA as a processor vendor.

I genuinely miss that era of computing. Simpler, more fun, and with way more but not as crippling problems (except Linux support and WinModem. I'm glad that we're past that).

wowczarek 1 hour ago||
That era was great - think PC Engines, Soekris, early Mikrotik RouterBoard, etc. Felt proper elite at the time.

I still have one of those C3 embedded aluminium boxes with a pass-through Ethernet bypass port pair. I ran it as a transparent bridging FW, when power went, it turned into a coupler. This is what got me using pfSense.

Another thing VIA C3 had was the integrated Padlock crypto engine, and this was way before AES-NI, supported on both Linux and BSDs. I remember benchmarking SSL against contemporary Xeons at the time and it wasn't even apples and oranges, it was more like tar and fibre optics. Cisco's AIM module throughput at the time felt laughable in comparison.

Atom was OK, but today Intel's N-series are proving great and we are completely spoilt for choice in terms of good, cheap platforms available.

nottorp 35 minutes ago||
Just a PSA for those that skim, the most fun part of the article is the last page. Not posting spoilers although they can be found on this page.
dspillett 2 hours ago||
I remember being very impressed by the combined daftness and ingenuity in this and similar builds, to the point that I'm disappointed by the 3D printing community for its lack of imagination in computer cases: there are a great many options for mini-ITX boards, RPi's and their ilk, but for the most part that are just cases, or mini-racks, or open test rigs, with little or none of the imagination that brought us things like this and the infamous PHKL (https://web.archive.org/web/20011212120420/http://www.exonom...).
101008 11 hours ago||
Sounds like a fun project and very cool for the nostalgic people (like me).

A bit off topic, but I also loved the fact that the website remains like an antique website from that era (I know the article is from 2003 but the design is clearly not "modern"). I am going to say something probably stupid, but I feel there is a correlation between old/vintage design = good content.

denissem 10 hours ago|
I agree. Specially text-based websites. The content is very rich, full of details, sometimes technical details, useful links, etc.
Terr_ 11 hours ago||
The final embellishment of making it automatically "dual boot" between XP and Red Hat Linux is a very nice touch.
vintagedave 5 hours ago|
Yes, especially the concern they could accidentally boot XP from their Linux box, and vice versa - I laughed. But also the technical solution, placing it one way up and then another with a tilt sensor, is really advanced.
sinabis 2 hours ago||
Great Idea. I wish the times with custom build PCs will come back. Now all Computers look basically the same from the outside which is sad. Always entertaining to look at Retro-Builds.
EbNar 43 minutes ago||
Unbelievably cute :-)
geon 7 hours ago||
Very impressive to pull off such a compact build in 2003!

I built a Shuttle xpc cube in 2008. I though that was tiny. I specifically used a laptop hard drive to reduce noice.

I think it was this exact model: https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlestations/s/o2HKpeLmrA

It was my firts step away from windows. I ran ubuntu on it a couple of years until I switched to macos to do ios dev.

chiph 2 hours ago|
Especially since the systems of the time used wide ribbon cables to connect the hard drive & CD-ROM.
Dwedit 7 hours ago|
Back when software came in boxes.
leokennis 6 hours ago||
I got my first real Pentium

Bought it at the local PC shop

Played Rollercoaster Tycoon, CD-ROM straight from it's huge box, on it 'til my fingers bled

Was the summer of '99

rickdeckard 5 hours ago|||
Here's me, puzzling to which part of "Summer of 69" I should hum this to work best...
leokennis 5 hours ago||
As you probably guessed, I'm in IT and not in the fine arts ;-)
deadlyllama 5 hours ago|||
Please accept this revision:

  I got my first real Pentium
  Bought it at the local shop
  Played Quake till my fingers ached
  Was the summer of '99

  Me and some guys from school
  Had a LAN and we played real hard
  Jonny lost, the network failed
  Should've upgraded our thinnet

  Oh, when I look back now
  Ninety-eight was more fun than XP
  And if I had the choice
  My kids wouldn't be stuck with chromebooks
  I really miss my old PC
...
egeozcan 7 hours ago||
I'll never forget the day I bought (made my parents buy) Age of Empires 2 and its blue box.

More like, "back when software came in physical media".

Putting the CD in the drive, the installation starts, and that wow effect starting the game, the hard disk clicking like crazy.

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