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Posted by FinnLobsien 6 hours ago

JetBrains Air: A System of Products for Agentic Software Development(blog.jetbrains.com)
62 points | 96 commentspage 2
splix 5 hours ago|
I've been paying customer for 15+ years, I wish I can continue using them another 15 years, but the current trend is terrible.

They had the best IDE. Now they went all into AI, trying to compete on another people's field, and the cost of that is diminishing their main product. Do they really want to compete with Anthropic? Instead of that they could improve the other sides of IDE. Even with AI I have to review the code. Especially with AI. I need tools to check the diffs, I need to refactor it, I need to run it in different ways, see how it works, and so on. That's where IntelliJ could shine, not as AI tool.

fundamental17 3 hours ago||
IntelliJ still provides the features you've listed. However, the developer workflows have changed quite a bit, and the tools have to adjust to that.
splix 12 minutes ago||
Right, and those features are deteriorating though it should be opposite as it becames more important now
kristel_tech 4 hours ago||
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fidotron 6 hours ago||
The problem all these products have is these blog posts that describe in enough detail what the patterns are, out of necessity, also provide the information for the product to be cloned into a form that is then more dynamic and malleable for use by other developers.

It's clearly existential for JetBrains, and it's revealing that the opening goes for the fear with "but it hasn’t changed what it costs to be wrong" while ignoring that this hasn't exactly been a major concern for most software people for a scarily long time, including JetBrains themselves.

thedangler 5 hours ago||
They need to fix how their AI Chat works. I could not for the life of me get it to edit files when using a local model with LM studio. It gave me the correct code to change. There is no Code mode when connecting to LM studio with a local model.

I couldn't find how to change the mode without it trying to use Junie, or claude etc. very frustrating.

pauleveritt 4 hours ago|
Hi, on this, I can promise (as a daily user) that our OpenCode and Pi support are really good. And with those, it's really easy to connect to LM Studio...in fact, I did this for the DeepLearning.AI course on hybrid/local models.
thereisadiff 5 hours ago||
I think it makes total sense for JetBrains, and a bet on multi-vendor is something that speaks sanity to me. JetBrains has never talked VC bull**t and I'm glad they are not losing their minds for AI
pauleveritt 19 minutes ago|
(JetBrainer here.) When I give conference talks, I introduce JetBrains as: private (never taken VC), profitable, and European. We are indeed focused on being AI Realists, on the side of coders who still want to code.
ianhawes 5 hours ago||
Highly recommend SoloTerm, which I think this kind of tries to replicate.
TheSaifurRahman 5 hours ago||
I think this is the future of code editors.

Two things that fell short for me:

1. No support for my Claude subscription

2. The git interface lags behind other JetBrains IDEs

neuraldenis 4 hours ago|
Hi, product person from JetBrains here:

About point 1: We tried to make this work, but unfortunately hit a hard stop with Anthropic: their current policies do not allow us to support this integration, and we were not able to negotiate an exception :c

We still hope that we will find an agreement here

smallerfish 5 hours ago||
I stopped using them last year. They were too late to see the AI juggernaut coming and their attempts at responding have been underwhelming. They should have been pouring resources into Fleet from 2022 onwards to make this, but instead it's been a series of missteps. This looks like approximately the right offering, but where's the moat? It seems like just another Cursor/Antigravity.
fundamental17 4 hours ago|
It is a broader story than just the IDE integration. That's important, of course, but the post talks about agentic development across the IDE, teams, and organizations.
ragebol 6 hours ago||
I want to like this, but not being able to plug this into eg. OpenRouter or a local agent is a bummer.
pauleveritt 4 hours ago||
Yes, as others replied, just plug in an agent with a model config pointed at OpenRouter. I do this all the time with OpenCode and Pi. Give me a reply if I can help you on this.
looperhacks 5 hours ago|||
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but isn't a sizeable part of the article about how Air can be used with any agent (section "The future is multi-vendor")
girvo 5 hours ago||
It supports ACP, so you can use it with any ACP speaking harness including many that would work with local agents
darkwi11ow 6 hours ago||
Just yesterday tried Intellij ai assistant setup and it sucks. I mainly use Cursor but also have Codex sub, and since version 3.15 Cursor made changes that nerfed Codex experience inside IDE, so I reluctantly look for replacement that could allow me to use both from a single interface. Intellij kinda allows for that unified interface, but is very prototype-y quality, missing features from both Cursor and Codex, can not import historical conversations and their auth UX is meh. Not sure if they will be able to catch up to competition from there.
jasontheda 4 hours ago|
hey darkwi11ow, would love to hear more about the fricition you experienced in the setup! don't want people immediately moving on when they haven't even had the opportunity to experience the tool!
darkwi11ow 4 hours ago||
Hey few things that are deal breakers for me (I tried Intellij IDEA community edition, AI assistant)

1) Import of historical data from agents. I often look up past agent sessions and require search into them as a primary feature of the harness. I know for a fact that historical conversations are not encrypted for both Codex and Cursor on a local filesystem, so Intellij tool could import them into ai assistance plugin even before user is authenticated with either Cursor or Codex. There are few annoying things in search for both Cursor and Codex extensions, so having great search over past conversations could be a great introductory feature

2) Auth .. I am not sure about this one technically because I haven't looked myself into how agent auth is done for Cursor and Codex, but at least for Codex, their IDE extension for vscodium/cursor/zed/etc. is able to use existing authentication from the CLI codex tool, so I do not need to login into every new IDE I try Codex extension in. With Intellij Codex auth did not work at all for me.

3) Cursor authentication worked, though I needed second one for Intellij while being logged in with CLI, but the model reasoning level is not selectable from within ai assistant, one more deal breaker for me unfortunately (I found it stays like this for a long time: https://forum.cursor.com/t/intellij-cursor-acp-reasoning-lev...)

christkv 5 hours ago|
I still pay for it but it’s getting harder to justify spending on it.
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