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Posted by MC995 9 hours ago

Apple has added persistent 'ads' to iOS, and it's driving users crazy(www.techradar.com)
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gniv 6 hours ago||
Ads on Maps were inevitable. Google does it too. Those services just cost a ton of money to run. (I know the article talks about other ads too.)
post_break 5 hours ago||
I'll never forget when an employee at Samsung asked on their internal chat why the built in Weather app has ads, and they turned them off. https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-remove-ads-2735914/
hollowturtle 1 hour ago||
> There is not always a “dismiss” button to shoo them away for good, and when there is, some people have reported that it doesn’t seem to work.

Welcome to my world where "Show fewer shorts" on YouTube has been clicked I dunno anymore how many times, it's an habit now

wffurr 6 hours ago||
Maybe they're trying to train people to be OK with the red notification badge and just accept unread notifications as part of life.
gwbas1c 6 hours ago||
Decent companies listen: I suggest contacting support; if enough people do it they might realize the errors in their ways.

I had a similar experience with promotional notifications from Hyundai: I suspect I'm not the only person who called their support saying, "I don't want ads from a $70,000 car."

busymom0 2 hours ago|
Today, I emailed Craig Federighi about the ads in App Store search results as well as Apple Intelligence models eating up 30 GB on my Mac mini despite it being turned off.

Let's see if anyone listens.

coldfloor 8 hours ago||
This is clickbait. The way they put "ads" in quotes every time shows they know what they're doing. I've seen some other comments here complaining about ads in Maps (which I've never used and can't speak to), but this article is specifically calling out the long-existing practice of Settings showing a little badge on new devices that says "You're entitled to some free months of Arcade/TV" or whatever. That's not an ad, or an "ad."
adrian17 8 hours ago||
Agreed, clickbait. The only reason I clicked the article was because I _didn’t_ see any new ads after upgrading iOS, so I was curious what they meant.
bigyabai 8 hours ago||
> new ads

That's the thing, though. Those modal offer popups have been in macOS and iOS for a really long time, and does cheapen the experience like Microsoft and Google products do.

alistairSH 7 hours ago|||
It's definitely an ad, but it's also been there for years now. And of all the ads I encountered across various platforms and spaces in real life, these are about the least obnoxious.
hsbalanxvxjsmab 8 hours ago||
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fzeindl 9 hours ago||
I really don’t get this. Apple is trying to sell you 2 or 3 addons that are really beneficial and great products that make sense.

I don’t need them, I don’t buy them.

But I really appreciate there being a button at a place that logically makes sense and that gives you the opportunity to make more out of your device.

AFAIK you can click them away.

It’s not as if there are intrusive popups or as if they are trying to sell you blackmarket ware.

dumbmrblah 8 hours ago||
I have a subscription to Apple+, 2 TB, $40 month plan.

I'm still getting the ads to upgrade my storage. Can't dismiss it. Why?

asdff 6 hours ago||
$40 for only 2tb? Extortion.
dumbmrblah 6 hours ago||
Nah - Music, TV, Fitness etc all included. All shared with the family (and extended family) so it doesn't have the friction of piecemealing it all together, which I value more than anything.
zamadatix 7 hours ago|||
I've tried clicking them away and they keep coming back. E.g. my current watch is about to hit a year old and doesn't have Apple Care. I clicked away anything about the Apple Card in Wallet and I just had it sitting right at the top when I was trying to get to my boarding pass last week. I have no idea why it keeps telling me about Apple Fitness or Apple Music each time I purchase a new device, I was aware of it the last 6 times it tried to push those.

I don't mind a simple "You might be interested in these other services for your device" during initial setup. I do mind post set-up ads I have to click to disable in different places across my devices multiple times over time. It's just trashy.

SOTGO 8 hours ago|||
From the article, many users report being unable to disable them:

> "Infuriatingly for iOS users, the only way to disable these promos is to either let them expire — which in many cases could take weeks or even months, leaving a persistent notification badge on the Settings app in the meantime — or pay for the service being offered. There is not always a “dismiss” button to shoo them away for good, and when there is, some people have reported that it doesn’t seem to work."

> "And unfortunately for users, that means more ads like this on their devices. While they are far from the most obnoxious ads around, the fact that many cannot be dismissed is clearly rubbing users the wrong way — as is the fact that the promos even exist at all in an Apple product.

There is also the possibility that at least some of these adverts are appearing due to a bug. The iCloud+ one in particular has drawn comments from users who are already subscribed to iCloud+ and thus, one would think, should not need to see any ads like this."

Anecdotally I have had this happen in the past, but not currently. I am particularly annoyed by the pattern where after an update it nags me to set up Siri, and the only way to remove the red notification icon is to partially progress through the setup before quitting. If you exit early the notification persists.

bigyabai 8 hours ago|||
> Apple is trying to sell you 2 or 3 addons

That is precisely what an advertisement is, congratulations on identifying the issue.

nodamage 6 hours ago|||
People are being intentionally obtuse in order to find something to get mad about.

Obviously offering add-ons to your own product is not the same as "showing ads" by any common understanding of the term.

Otherwise literally every app that offers a free version or trial with some form of paid upgrade would be considered "showing ads" because there's an upgrade button somewhere in the app.

If you're going to call that "showing ads" then I would argue you've overloaded the definition to the point where it becomes meaningless.

xavdid 6 hours ago||
Yeah I feel like this is the nuance that gets lost.

I hate ads, but mentioning other first party services feels very different than selling parts of the system UI like a billboard.

These service upsells should be dismissible but they seem fairly inoffensive. The App Store ads, on the other hand, are just atrocious

jsiepkes 4 hours ago||
Google does this as well with Google Workspace with administrators. It's super annoying.
davidee 8 hours ago|
It's not just iOS. Final Cut Pro on MacOS now regularly advertises iPadOS Final Cut Pro (which is a paid SaaS tool). Professional applications (arguments about Final Cut Pro X not being all that professional notwithstanding) that advertise like that are almost non-existent in the pro audio and video industry; an Apple pro app advertising, would have been heresy a few years ago.

And yeah, it drives me crazy. It's one more, wildly unnecessary, click.

Logic is one of the last tools keeping me tethered to MacOS. I've got 26 years invested in it, but the moment I open it up to record something and see an ad, it's over. Ardour and Bitwig will suffice, even if it means flushing tens of thousands of dollars of software down the toilet with it (the core suite of plugins I use).

I'm tired of unnecessary speed bumps in the creative process. It's why I no longer use a Roli Seaboard (what wildly awful software).

Apple continues down a course (addicted to ads, even their own) that I've seen few recover from.

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