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Posted by km144 1 day ago

Claude Opus 5.5(www.anthropic.com)
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isodev 1 day ago|
So is it cheaper? Are we AGI yet? Am I left behind? I didn't have patience for the intro animation on the website... maybe one day, Claude Code will understand accessibility but that day is not today.
spiderice 1 day ago||
You didn't have the patience to scroll down, so you decided to come post about it here and waste all of our time?
isodev 1 day ago||
The site is horrific so no, I didn't scroll.
b38484848 1 day ago||
we will be agi in six months as in the last 36 months
anthonyrstevens 13 hours ago||
Nobody reasonable is suggesting that. Strawman.
robertwt7 1 day ago||
excited to try this out. the thing with new models though even if it claims to be cheaper, sometimes it spent less tokens on different task. I found that with Astra I'm actually not so far off from Opus 5 since it spends much less token to complete a task. The claims in the article that it surpasses Astra on a lot of things is interesting to test though
km144 1 day ago||
I think this release is really going to give them a hard time selling Fable:

> On our benchmarks, Claude Opus 5.5 leads in agentic coding, computer use, and knowledge work. That said, at these levels of capability we’ve found that benchmark margins have become a less reliable guide to real-world differences. In our own use, the gap between Opus 5.5 and Claude Fable 5.1 is narrower than these scores suggest.

In general, "benchmark margins have become a less reliable guide to real-world differences" sounds like a big problem. It was certainly the biggest problem with the previous generation of Claude models for a different reason, because the non-code output was nonsensical, and that is not being benchmarked at the moment. But I'm not sure what to make of this admission.

booty 1 day ago||

    "benchmark margins have become a less 
    reliable guide to real-world differences" 
    sounds like a big problem.
My guesses:

1. Real-world use cases typically involve big, hairy, crufty, tech debt laden codebases and benchmarks do not.

2. AFAIK "success" in a benchmark essentially boils down to "do the tests pass and do we get the right result?" which is something the LLMs have been achieving with ease for a while, except maybe for uber-challenging coding tasks that would be outliers in just about any workplace. Whereas real-world software engineering is usually just a bunch of CRUD... and "success" involves harder to measure dimensions like "maintainability" and "did you overengineer this?" and "how did you cope with a bunch of vague and maybe contradictory business requirements?"

Having said all of that, I have never ever looked inside any of these benchmarks. I'm putting my guesses out here strictly in the tradition of "the quickest way to learn about something is to be wrong about it on the internet."

Solvyx 1 day ago||
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simianwords 1 day ago|||
It’s likely that they have internal benchmarks but they are communicating to people who can only gauge through external benchmarks.
suddenlybananas 1 day ago||
Why wouldn't they report these benchmarks?
CPLX 1 day ago||
Opus 5 fucking sucks. Like it's horrible. I use Fable for coding and anything important and I use Opus 4.8 for things like recursive email categorization, transaction matching, and other stuff where I don't want to burn as much quota.

In my experience Opus 5 is the worst of all possible worlds, it's dumb and headstrong. It just runs away with tasks you didn't ask it to do, is reckless, and basically is unusable in my experience.

Not sure why but my guess is that this will be worse. Happy to be proven wrong.

port3000 1 day ago|||
I believe Opus 5 isn't meant to be spoken to by humans. It's great at executing but I reckon it's intended to be spoken to by other models such as Fable. I use Fable as the orchestrator, only speak with Fable, and all implementation, recon, design etc happens with Opus 5, with Fable reviewing (and translating).
booty 1 day ago||
That's interesting.

I've really gone in the opposite direction: having a dumber model orchestrate. In my case, it's usually a Luna orchestrator spawning Sol/Astra subagents to do the "big brain" work of planning and reviewing.

Reason I went with "dumb orchestrator" was just to save tokens. Having Opus/Sol (let alone Fable/Astra) orchestrate was burning tokens like crazy for me even when much of the gruntwork was being done by Luna/Sonnet/Haiku subagents. (Luna is also really good, like way better than Sonnet...) Perhaps it was a skill issue on my end though, maybe I wasn't just managing context properly.

cbg0 1 day ago||||
I use it frequently with a lot of success on "Medium" effort, it overthinks like crazy on higher levels, but YMMV.
Syntaf 1 day ago|||
Yeah if anything Opus 5 taught me how little benchmarks mean to the actual real world performance of these models.

"Better" in every sense of the benchmarks and absolutely horrible results in my day-to-day work.

The verbosity, goal post moving, tendency to leave work unfinished, over focusing on unrealistic root causes when debugging, etc... etc...

It was the first time I actually pinned my models back because I just could not work with 5 for the price and performance it gave me. Hoping 5.5 is better this time around....

dezmou 1 day ago||
I don't understand, so it outperform fable 5.1 in every way and is cheaper ? Why do they insist on the fact that is outperform opus 5 and not fable 5.1
Retr0id 1 day ago||
> Opus 5.5 (1M context)'s safeguards flagged this session. You may be seeing this for the first time on an Opus model: Opus 5.5 (1M context) is more capable and has stronger safeguards as a result, which can sometimes flag non-cybersecurity work. We're improving these safeguards to reduce the amount of incorrectly flagged messages. Opus 4.8 is answering instead, or you can edit and retry with Opus 5.5 (1M context).

Yay, yet another model I can't use for anything interesting, even with CVP.

Retr0id 1 day ago|
I thought maybe I just had an unlucky first prompt, but man, this thing is an absolute pain to work with. I'm getting innocuous bash commands flagged as "[Third-Party Attack]". This seems to be related to the command auto-approval, switching to manual seems to be helping.
desmondl 1 day ago||
I'll have to try 5.5 on my work's Cursor account. If they really solved the communication issues, I might consider moving my personal account from Codex back to Claude Code.
desmondl 9 hours ago|
Update: It's pretty good.

It still covers as much detail as Opus 5, and provides a healthy amount of caveats, but it's much better at just providing the answer up front and framing the caveats.

5.5 communicates like a real collaborator and not something that constantly demands my mental energy to decode what it's trying to say.

In the application I'm working on, we don't want "user's local midnight" to mean "next day". If a live sports game extends past midnight, we don't want the UI to group it under "Yesterday's games." So I asked Opus 5.5 "can we use the backend's API response as the definition of today instead of the browser's local time?"

Opus 5.5:

> Your assumption holds, and the commit history backs it up. Every time the frontend decided for itself what "today" meant, it broke and was later replaced with the backend's currentSeasonDay. There's one catch: trusting the backend only works if the client's copy of currentSeasonDay is current, and right now it often isn't.

Opus 5 would have buried the answer in some kind of unhinged lecture. Something like:

> The assumption is right about ownership and wrong about possession.

> currentSeasonDay is the authority; the commit history has already paid for that conclusion. Every local reconstruction of “today” became a second clock and was deleted. But naming one clock does not make every copy of its reading current.

> The remaining failure is on the other side of the seam: the frontend no longer invents the day, but it can preserve an old one indefinitely. The source is right. The observation is stale. Those are not contradictory states.

> Do not reopen the ownership decision to solve a freshness defect.

Basically the point is just poll the endpoint every 5 minutes or so

nullbio 1 day ago||
I'm sure it's a good model, but I can't in good conscience sign up to Anthropic again given how they behave. What a shame.
alpineman 1 day ago|
So we skipped 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, and 5.4: we really are plateauing
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