Posted by vrganj 1 day ago
I've never really thought about the ICC at all other than just knowing that the few countries that possess both hard power (military) and soft power (economic) have refused to join or recognize the ICC since its inception in 2002.
Why would China and USA both not recognize it? It seems like they're the only ones that really matter.
I don't think it actually would happen if it joined but since it's the US I can also imagine someone being pushed to (or doing it for some personal fame) to bend the procedural rules to at least launch an investigation that wouldn't generally be launched if the facts were the same in another western country.
That being said, their accusations towards the ICC as it has operated so far (as opposed to why they don't join) are mostly pretextual and right now they're mostly motivated by their alliance with Israel which is being investigated over Gaza
- USA
- Israel (active war)
- Russia (active war)
- Iran (active war) - signed but not ratified
- Sudan(active war) - signed but not ratified
- Yemen (active war) - signed but not ratified
- Saudi Arabia (active war)
- North Korea (passive war)
- India (recent war)
- Pakistan (recent war)
- Vietnam
- Myanmar
- Ethiopia
- China
- Turkey
- Qatar
Probably (hopefully) we'll look back on this as the start of the end of US soft influence.
ICC, embrace-extinguishing EU, exploiting Middle East, South America as colonies - these are not 180 turns, just playing the same game faster and dumber. Notable exceptions may be Canada or Greenland, but even there one might suspect they just surfaced a previously well disguised agenda.
Commit 28 crimes against humanity? To jail! For 12 years! https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3070nlqnq3o
Enlist child soldiers? 14 years! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lubanga_Dyilo
> Champions of the court say it deters would-be war criminals, bolsters the rule of law, and offers justice to victims of atrocities. https://www.cfr.org/backgrounders/role-icc
lol. lmao.
Try to change my mind if you want.