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Posted by jonnonz 21 hours ago

OpenAI breaches Medicare, Albanese reveals(www.smh.com.au)
240 points | 247 commentspage 5
ls612 9 hours ago|
The commentators in this thread are missing something important because they hate OpenAI so much. If I tell my AI agent to “go find public Australian health statistics” this should not be possible to make into a felony, even if the Australians put more files on the “publicly available” side than they intended to. It is going to be ordinary folks, researchers who politicians have an ax to grind against, etc, who will face the fallout from this. OpenAI will just achieve regulatory capture.
lesostep 9 hours ago|
Well, yeah.

If I sold a button that hacks random sites as a fidget toy, people pressing the button wouldn't be held liable — I would.

You shouldn't be held liable, OpenAI should

ls612 8 hours ago||
It doesn’t even sound like it hacked anyone it sounds like there was a “s3 bucket set to public” type issue and the agent just naively downloaded the data. That should absolutely not incur liability, how is a reasonable person or agent supposed to know if a dataset you can download from a website designed to serve datasets is intended to be downloaded?
lesostep 7 hours ago||
>> “s3 bucket set to public”

I don't believe that was mentioned in the article in any way. Could you share your reasoning there?

ls612 7 hours ago||
It wasn’t literally that, it was that the dashboard contained both data intended to be public and data not intended to be public, all accessible by anyone on the internet.
Invictus0 18 hours ago||
Title should say it's Australia's medicare
sevenseacat 13 hours ago|
You'd think that it was announced by Australia's prime minister and the report is on an Australian website would give it away...
haritha-j 10 hours ago||
Ah yes, they’re just rouge AI that we built, so it’s not like a malicious human at our company did it, it’s totally different, no one needs to go to jail for hacking peoples health data.

Btw, when we train AI on everybody’s work, it’s just like a human learning, so the same rules should apply.

LLMs are shrodinger’s humans.

iloveoof 18 hours ago||
I hate how the framing is always that “an AI agent” did something. No, an OpenAI researcher breached Medicare by using an AI agent. These tools only do what they are directed to do. The human operator is wholly responsible for what the tool does.
kakadu 19 hours ago||
Either it's yet again a marketing ploy or federal police needs to move in
underyx 20 hours ago||
Man I can't believe now even the Australian government is hyping the OpenAI IPO, what do they even have to gain from this??
shitcoder 16 hours ago||
It's about politics, they signed an AI safety understanding at the UN summit.

Personally, I wish the the side effect wasn't the playing into the hands of the AI tech companies

alboboboob 19 hours ago||
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pembrook 10 hours ago||
No OpenAI did not hack or “breach” Australian medicare. Nor did anybody else. This entire alarmist discussion thread is based on a false premise and clickbait title.

They posted information publicly accessible to even Google and somebody found it. That’s it.

rvz 12 hours ago||
Completely wreckless and of course they knew unsurprisingly.

Frontier AI companies will purposefully do anything to create such false flags to achieve global regulatory capture to prevent you from using powerful open weight models and to protect their margins.

It is clear why they would reveal the breach now instead of much earlier. So what else are they hiding that they have not told us and will wait until the last minute to get attention of the media?

enraged_camel 20 hours ago|
At this point we should be asking if there's anything or anyone OpenAI's agents didn't hack.

OpenAI's display of incompetence and negligence is absolutely stunning.

pixl97 19 hours ago||
There are two factors here.

1. OAIs negligence is overwhelming, monumental.

2. Things on the internet are horrifically insecure and we can no longer afford for that to be the case.

Lets say that Iran or NK stole one of these models and used it for hacking, what are you going to do about it, get in a war with them? The fact OAI did this much stupidly should tell you we are in far more danger when someone decides to do it maliciously.

amelius 20 hours ago||
Maybe the agents operated from people's OpenClaw installations, and then OAI is not really to blame.
BLKNSLVR 18 hours ago||
Article states it was OpenAI researchers.
amelius 4 hours ago||
Ok.
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