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Posted by polymorph1sm 15 hours ago

Meta VR Glasses(www.meta.com)
457 points | 411 commentspage 3
markus_zhang 15 hours ago|
This is very cool. We finally have something that genuinely looks like glasses.

Now someone just needs to learn how to hack into these glasses remotely…and then we will have the Ghost in the Shell moment.

fg137 4 hours ago|
"we finally have something ..." maybe do a search first.
markus_zhang 20 minutes ago||
Ah my mind is lagging behind…
ToJans 9 hours ago||
I've been in this space since Oculus DK1.

I've yet to see the first use case that makes it more than a party trick.

I tried pushing it for 3D configurators during sales, but sales people hate it with reason: you're missing out on the buyer's reaction and it breaks the sales journey.

As long as we can't see the user's eyes etc this will flop.

jesse_dot_id 14 hours ago||
$1300 for 70° × 66° FOV is pretty awful. Also, I wish they'd stop hyping these devices for productivity when they know the text isn't sharp enough. This will be good for watching stuff and that's about it. Is it good enough at that to justify tethering yourself to a brick? I suspect not for $1300.

I'm in VR a lot, mostly in bigscreen VR, and have had the Quest, Quest 2, and Quest 3. I don't see any reason to upgrade from the latter at all.

nullishdomain 13 hours ago||
I use the Apple Vision Pro as my main display, programming for 8+ hours per day. Zero issues as long as you're willing to use larger screens! The PPD on this looks very similar, possibly a bit better due to its lower FOV.
jesse_dot_id 11 hours ago||
But won't the low FOV make it impossible to glance at other displays, even if the text is sharp enough?
modeless 12 hours ago|||
The text should be sharp enough on this one. It's sharper than Vision Pro and Bigscreen.
LoganDark 13 hours ago||
> Also, I wish they'd stop hyping these devices for productivity when they know the text isn't sharp enough.

Agreed. When I tried the Apple Vision Pro, I was a little disappointed at the PPD (which is like, 34 to Quest's 25 or so), didn't expect to still be so sensitive to it.

dverlaeckt80 7 hours ago||
After the "metaverse" hype of 5 years ago, VR clearly hasn’t really taken off.

I’ve personally always thought the headsets were simply too clunky, which puts off the average person from trying them, due to the hassle (and price).

This new design from Meta is the first I’ve seen that feels like something more people would actually want to try. Perhaps VR isn’t dead — maybe it’s just lurking in the shadows, waiting for the right hardware tech to bring it to the masses.

jagermo 7 hours ago||
Meta could have something great, but I fear they will stand in their way. I have the oakley meta glasses, and the quality of the camera and sound is fantastic. But the software is horrible. It's a walled garden where only Meta-friends are allowed to play. So, Spotify yes, Tidal, Deezer or others, No. It supports Garmin, but not Corros, Suunto or Polar.

If they had the courage to open up their plattform for external developers like Apple or Android (not even talking about open APIs), they could have an amazing ecosystem. Currently, it feels like a car with a stuck handbrake.

polyomino 7 hours ago|
That is what meta says they want, but their glasses are accessories on apples computer for now. Vr is more open you can sideload your own apks
GaryBluto 14 hours ago||
These Meta “VR Glasses” seem suspiciously like AR glasses. They even used an image of a game rendered on an AR screen for their “VR” game section.
gs17 14 hours ago||
Yeah, I'm not sure why they're calling it that. XR glasses, maybe, but not VR if you can't actually have any immersion.
daemonologist 11 hours ago||
I think they're calling them "VR" because they use camera pass-through for AR, whereas all their other AR products are see-through. (I think this is a reasonable place to draw the line - pass-through AR kind of sucks in my experience. Although maybe a third category would be appropriate.)
modeless 13 hours ago||
These finally have enough resolution to comfortably replace regular displays for productivity work, surrounding you with as many monitors as you want. Better PPD than Vision Pro, in a much better form factor. Apparently it supports DisplayPort over USB-C as well. I think they will sell a lot of these.
boringg 13 hours ago||
Still same problem all VR has -- no killer use case. Outside of the problem that it is Meta doing this, the product in and of itself isn't that great. Ask all Quest users if they still use it all the time.... most of the oculus's are just collecting dust.

Some future date we will get there, but this isn't it.

whall6 13 hours ago|
I’d really like to use it as an extended monitor for work. The problem with previous versions has been inability for me to see my own keyboard or even inability to easily mirror laptop screens. This looks like it could do that.
NBJack 12 hours ago||
Depends on how the device gets data from your computer and how it connects. My Xreal Ones present themselves as a monitor via DP Alt mode when I plug them into my work laptop, switch to ultrwide mode (32:9 is my fav), and I'm done.

To use most VR headsets that are also standalone devices, I would start by fighting with IT on getting some kind of security exception to use the necessary software on my laptop, then get started with streaming/connecting/sharing screens with it. Hopefully.

stevage 10 hours ago||
I get that there are people who are into this stuff, but honestly, I can't think of a single use for myself, unless the movie watching experience is really, really good.

I'm never going to wear a thing like this in public, and at home, I have my laptop and TV. The TV I'm usually watching with someone else, and this is worse than the laptop...so what's my use case?

djierardi 15 hours ago|
And still capturing audio where (in my state) you can't record conversations without consent?
cheema33 15 hours ago||
> And still capturing audio where

This may come as a surprise, but most phones can capture audio these days. Has your state made them illegal yet?

djierardi 14 hours ago||
Not yet! although its not legal to do so.
plantain 15 hours ago||
Sounds like you shouldn't use them in your state then? You can't open carry in my state... so I don't.
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