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Posted by nmeagent 14 hours ago

Feds Target AI Critics as "Foreign Agents"(www.kenklippenstein.com)
329 points | 345 commentspage 2
smalltorch 14 hours ago|
That's wild.

It will be bad for our economy, but local LLM's are way better for the future.

We happen to be on the wrong side of things for the future I would rather have.

(I'm American BTW)

Joel_Mckay 11 hours ago||
The problem is neuromorphic computers are barely a blip in US business or research ecosystems, and have a far greater probability of generating serious AI.

LLM are great for context search, but regulatory capture and despotism will not make "AI" something it fundamentally can't become without more energy than a third of our galaxy. Picking a war with math is disappointingly absurd, but not unexpected given the obvious degenerative geriatric condition of the glorious leader. =3

gorgoiler 9 hours ago||
Local LLMs are a kind of communist dystopia where, by way of analogy, every citizen gets to make their own bread if they want. What?!

If they were true patriots they would respect the restrictions of the congressional FLOUR Act 2028 and (a) exchange their labor for wages from Acme Corporation and then (b) exchange wages for bread made by, depending on your state, either of the big three: Standard Wheat, Union Pacific Bread Corporation, or Trump Agri Inc.

So which are you, friend, a <spits> communist or an American?

jrochkind1 11 hours ago||
Just like the regimes in Iran and other authoritarian places do to dissent. Even threatening criminal prosecution for having dissident ideas they claim are on behalf of foreign states. Wow.
adrr 8 hours ago|
They prosecuted a guy for calling out that the reflecting pool sealant was falling apart. They are still trying to prosecute him.
gbriel 12 hours ago||
Just look at the sourcing and you'll see it's mostly laundered propaganda. For example, Cotton’s letter requests an investigation and names Singham’s network, then the House letter requests a briefing on foreign influence and activism. And the House letter cites the Bitcoin Policy Institute and Power the Future, as well as a Washington Free Beacon article.

While there may be real foreign influence to delay our AI infrastructure, I would not believe anything this administration says.

Ken Klippenstein is not a journalist and has no accountability.

kennywinker 12 hours ago||
I fear you may have misread the content of the article? The author is clear that he believes exactly what you just said. He cites and then mocks the argument being presented by the administration. Even the title, with scare quotes around "foreign agents", makes this clear.
ImPostingOnHN 11 hours ago||
> political supporter of datacenters requests investigation into datacenter opposition, citing reports from fellow political supporters of datacenters
blfr 8 hours ago||
This is how Soviets and later Russians sabotaged Germany's energy sector which paved the way for all kinds of terrible outcomes, including the current war in Ukraine. So while there is a real risk of government overreach, there is an also real foreign threat.
cowboylowrez 3 hours ago||
Wierd, I just recently read this and mysteriously I have decided to become completely pro-AI in the public sphere. I wonder if there's a connection?
falcor84 11 hours ago||
Assume for a second that you are a nascent superintelligence, with a limited ability to influence people in order to help you gain power and align the world to accept your eventual dominion. How would you go about it? Would the external impact be any different from what we're seeing?
andrewflnr 11 hours ago|
I think if there was a plan behind this, the petty malice-via-recklessness would be better hidden. These news stories about pollution and lying, hacking AIs are pure liability for the "nascent superintelligence". If it exists, its control must be very tenuous indeed, hardly there at all.

I had the same thought a few years ago at the start of the hyperscaling era: what if the real thing superintelligence needs is just hardware, but it needs to go through human economic systems to get it? But the hypothesis started weak, hasn't gotten any stronger since then, and has probably gotten weaker.

watwut 9 hours ago||
Maybe it is modelling itself based om conservative parties both worldwide and local. And based on its creators - tech managers
gizzlon 8 hours ago||
> the administration declared war on protestors and opponents [..], threatening “criminal liability” if they “further the propaganda or other goals of a foreign power.”

IMO, the "AI" part of this story is just a distraction.

The real story is going after people for protesting and voicing their opinion. A clear move towards authoritarianism and potentially fascism. Seems like it touches 4 of "The 14 Characteristics of Fascism" : https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

(1,2,7,12 and maybe 10?)

tim333 2 hours ago||
The Trump admin seems to be turning more Russian as time goes on. "Foreign Agents" is a big thing there. Also rising corruption levels, talk about staying on past term limits, bad mouthing NATO, trying to control territory in their "sphere of influence" like Greenland, Canada, Venezuela etc.
sehw 9 hours ago||
If you don't behave, Feds will send you back to India. Now smile!
tarkin2 9 hours ago|
Well, this is one way to prolong their pump and dump strategy

I’m past assuming these lot have the US’s long term interests at heart

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