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Posted by hugh4life 16 hours ago

Pentium II at 600Mhz with Voodoo 3 Emulated on 86Box with M6 Mac Mini(nyaa.sh)
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ethical 8 hours ago|
Oh my got, the floppy disk drive sound, is so accurate, I am in full nostalgia mode. Off on to ebay to buy a real PS2! haha. The pain, the pain of ISA Cards etc. ALthough no physical cuts!
JMiao 8 hours ago||
PII at 600mhz would’ve been an impressive overclock back in the day
dallen33 8 hours ago||
Is this written by an LLM? It reads like it.
farseer 14 hours ago||
Emulated Voodoo 3? Does that mean I can run games using Glide?
mglvsky 12 hours ago||
I'd play Messiah[1] - such a hidden gem

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_(video_game)

szatkus 12 hours ago||
Available on Gog. Works fine on modern hardware last time I tried.
mglvsky 8 hours ago||
From my experience, the game crashed sometimes on Windows 7 (on old HP ProBook)
petaleverbloom 13 hours ago||
Yes, you can.
ranger_danger 14 hours ago||
I would be interested to see a performance comparison with qemu and softgpu (https://github.com/JHRobotics/softgpu).
AshamedCaptain 12 hours ago|
Or a Rosetta-based emulator (like Parallels). But 86Box is going to be very bad there.

While they claim "accuracy" as one of the goals for 86Box, I believe accuracy is overrated in PC emus (you don't really need that much accuracy due to the variety of PC clones, and emus are not that accurate anyway). For me the biggest point for using 86Box over other PC emulators/virtualizers is the large selection of virtual hardware available to emulate, not performance.

kmeaw 12 hours ago||
86Box is just accurate enough to run the original unmodified firmware. It does not emulate cache and RAM behavior, so you won't get performance-related accuracy. You are likely to succeed in Spectre-like attacks against an emulated 386, which shouldn't be possible on a real thing.

If you don't care and just want to go faster on a modern x86 CPU, you can replace the CPU emulation part of 86Box with a hypervisor. I tried running a Socket 7 motherboard firmware on Linux's KVM - given the chipset emulation is correct, it works: it amusingly identifies an AMD Zen5 running at 3GHz as "Unknown-S CPU at M60MHz" and boots to a DOS prompt.

AshamedCaptain 10 hours ago||
Kind of proving why accuracy is not really that important for the PC world. Most era firmware would have tried to run on as much variety of machines possible.
raverbashing 13 hours ago||
Computers got better, true

But those were much cooler than the ones today

qubex 14 hours ago||
Now I want to emulate my dual PIII-450 with an ATI Rage Fury 128 running Windows 2000.
ChickeNES 11 hours ago||
Which motherboard did you have those in? I had a dual socket 370 EPoX board, but I never put a second CPU in it.

Also, sounds like I should work on upstreaming my Rage Fury 128 emulation...and the EPoX SMP emulation...(the perils of too much ADHD and too few tokens)

qubex 10 hours ago||
I don’t really remember what motherboard I had. It definitely didn’t have dual sockets because the first PIII (Katmai) were Slot A devices. I even ran the utility to turn off the controversial unique serial number. I remember having all sorts of trouble after I replaced a processor because it turned out they had different steppings. I complained and made a pain of myself and eventually they replaced the existing unit with an equal stepping. Again, I can’t remember all the details.
sdcfgy 14 hours ago|||
Heh I had one of those back in the day with an Intel made L440GX+ and SCSI disks. One of my favourite machines.
qubex 13 hours ago||
Dual processor machines back then were rather exotic. I was coming from a period on BeOS (“one processor per person is not enough!”) and I’ve never really been able to endure non-SMP machines since 1995. It’s common now of course. I had 512 MB of RAM and a pair of 9.4 (?) SCSI disks connected in RAID-0: I liked to live dangerously back in the day. It ended in tears a few times but I also had a 2GB Iomega Jaz drive for backups… yeah… eventually I switched to DVD-R… yeah… there’s holes in my records.
sdcfgy 12 hours ago||
Very cool! Never tried BeOS back in the day. I heard good things though.

Amazing times. I actually upgraded to that from a Compaq Professional Workstation 5000 which had dual Pentium Pro 180s in it. Ran NT and occasionally FreeBSD. Cost me a small fortune at the time. Backups here were to a SCSI DLT (can't remember capacity) that was chucked in the trash at work. All it needed was a minor repair.

qubex 7 hours ago||
I highly recommend you give Haiku a spin… the remake 25 years in the making and counting (which is several multiples the actual duration of the system it is “inspired by”, but that’s the nature of emulators and reproductions, isn’t it?). At any rate, it really gives the look and feel of the system as it was back then. The design is somehow peak late nineties distilled down into a powerful concentrate. (Make sure you click and hold shift to move the yellow tabs on the windows around.)
sneak 12 hours ago||
I miss Windows 2000. Win32 was such a good time in desktop computing.
qubex 10 hours ago||
Windows 2000 was some kind of brief apex. I was a beta tester and I saw it mature from ‘NT5’ into what it eventually became. It was too rapidly supplanted by Windows XP. It deserves to be remembered.
system2 4 hours ago||
I vividly remember the agony of not having an AGP port on my motherboard and being forced to buy Voodoo 3-2000 (PCI). It was not as good as the Voodoo 3-3000, which was AGP, but finally I was able to play Quake2 with 3d acceleration. Good memories.
KellyCriterion 14 hours ago||
But can it run Crysis? :-D
LetMeLogin 14 hours ago||
It can run Doom for sure.
pjmlp 14 hours ago||
Hardly, given that the hardware predates the game.
normie3000 13 hours ago|||
I think most games are written to run on hardware that predates them.
creatonez 3 hours ago|||
Are we sure that's true for Crysis
pjmlp 12 hours ago|||
Kind of, while chronological true, that misses the hardware configuration that the games expect to be available as means to execute their binary code.
anthk 9 hours ago||
A dual CPU board with a late 1GHZ Pentium III and a good video card might run it at lowest settings.
pjmlp 9 hours ago||
That isn't the hardware being discussed here.
jonstewart 11 hours ago|
Quake party!!!!