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Posted by danso 7 hours ago

In an $80 motel room, a discovery to shed light on the origins of life(www.nytimes.com)
180 points | 68 comments
ouked 7 hours ago|
https://archive.is/2026.09.26-101638/https://www.nytimes.com...
vixen99 6 hours ago|
Thank you !!
adrian_b 1 hour ago||
While the research about Paulinella is very interesting, it has no relationship whatsoever with "the origins of life".

What this research is about is the origin of plants, which are indeed one of the most important forms of life, but the origin of plants is distant by billions of years from the origin of life and it is even distant by billions of years from the origin of phototrophy (frequently, but not really correctly, called "photosynthesis", i.e. the extraction of energy from solar light).

The ancestor of red algae and green algae (the terrestrial plants are descended from green algae) has been created by the hybridization through symbiosis between a unicellular eukaryote (i.e. nucleated cell) and a cyanobacterium, a.k.a. blue-green alga.

As explained in TFA, Paulinella is the second case of such a symbiosis between a nucleated cell and a cyanobacterium, which happened relatively recently, unlike the symbiosis from the origin of plants, which happened about a billion and a half years ago.

Because Paulinella and its internal symbionts have not been modified so profoundly by symbiosis like the red algae or green algae, it can provide information about how the early stages of the hybridization happened, eventually allowing a better understanding of how plants function.

popalchemist 45 minutes ago|
the origins of plant life is related to the origins of life; even if by abstraction.
2b3a51 4 hours ago||
> "He noticed that the scales were overlapping one another in different directions — in one, they overlapped on top of each other in a clockwise pattern, and the other was in reverse. The fresh eyes of a person who hadn’t been staring at Paulinella for hours identified a curious, distinctive trait. Were they looking at two different species?"

I found it reassuring that sketching what you see down the microscope is still part of a scientific practice. Also the 'fresh eyes' could perhaps point the way to a more collegiate organisation of research.

alexpotato 2 hours ago||
> Dr. Van Etten didn’t expect much from the water she had scooped from a random dock next to the highway

There are stories of companies asking their employees to bring back soil and water samples from wherever the employees go on vacation.

The idea is that this is a somewhat random sampling of locations that the company wouldn't have thought of on their own. Plus, it's possible that one of the samples has some novel chemical or biological compound that could lead to a breakthrough discovery.

MisterMunchkin 1 hour ago||
If labs want samples like that they should start a scheme, I’d be happy to mail in random stuff.
bromuk 1 hour ago||
Same! Ready to send random samples from Sheffield
kevmo 2 hours ago||
Reminds me of penicillin research, where random cantaloupe from Peoria yielded the best penicillin mold.
staplung 5 hours ago||
If you have a decent microscope and want to work on some citizen science that's directly related to the research in this article: https://www.vanettenlab.org/paulinella-consortium
deadbabe 3 hours ago|
What is a “decent microscope”?
staplung 2 hours ago|||
Of course that's a whole discussion but perhaps in the $300 range. Sounds like that's what Dr. Van Etten herself was using when she first found one.

She actually made some specific recommendations on the microscopy sub-reddit but they're a bit pricier ($425+). (scroll to last comment by Jay211TF):

https://www.reddit.com/r/microscopy/comments/1dhagyr/entry_l...

Cockbrand 2 hours ago|||
+1 on this question, without any snark intended. What's a good, not too expensive beginner's microscope that's capable of this kind of citizen research (and other fun stuff)?
chakintosh 2 hours ago||
Reading this article with a bittersweet feeling. This is exactly the kind of work I wanted to do for the rest of my life while in Biology class at uni 15 years ago. But I dropped out and ended up in a completely different field (Design). But I still have that fondness of Biology in me all these years later.
pvillano 1 hour ago|
Then buy a microscope and start looking for Paulinella!

https://www.vanettenlab.org/paulinella-consortium

aduffy 10 minutes ago||
Maybe I'm getting old but man, motel rooms run $80 now?
Bayes7 3 hours ago||
>"The first species of Paulinella was discovered on Dec. 24, 1894, in the sediments of a backwater of the Rhine River by the German biologist Robert Lauterborn. He named the genus after his stepmother, Pauline."

How can they say this without providing more background?

grantsucceeded 4 hours ago||
this revives my recurring desire to get a good USB microscope. Good, to me, in this context:

a few hundred bucks

able to look at microbes

also able to look at less micro level stuff, like maybe the thing i'm trying to solder or fix

is it wrong to solicit comments/recommendations here?

PhilipRoman 3 hours ago||
I'm in the process of building one myself. Take what I'm saying with a massive grain of salt, but I believe you basically need three things - objective, tube lens and a camera module.

If I were you, I would probably buy a normal microscope that supports a microscope camera attachment, instead of specifically looking for USB microscope. There is a lot of misleading marketing around USB microscopes, a lot of them are literally just doing digital zooming in (I have a 30€ "1000x" microscope from Amazon which is nice for soldering and such things, but these fake microscopes appear even at higher price ranges). Treat anything >1000x for light-based microscopes as a red flag.

pppone 3 hours ago|||
Some random ones I've encountered (less for PCB work though):

- https://openflexure.org/

- https://www.eurekamicroscope.com/

staplung 4 hours ago||
Perhaps better to ask here: https://www.reddit.com/r/microscopy/. They get that question a lot.
jll29 1 hour ago|
Once a scientist, always a scientist.

Great reporting - reading this NYT article gives me a little bit of the excitement that I normally only get from reading Quanta Magazine.

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