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Posted by damaru2 16 hours ago

A Privacy Analysis of Web and Mobile Conversational AI Agents [pdf](jorgegarciaherrero.com)
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sick_of_slop 13 hours ago|
Of course they do. As soon as ads entered the equation this was always going to happen. Nobody should be suprised.
swedishPerson1 9 hours ago||
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drywater2 14 hours ago||
No, they don't "leak data", data is sold. Leaking data requires a mistake. This is intentional.
kjs3 12 hours ago||
Thank you. I keep saying this and the spin doctors keep using words that imply "oh, my...I am so sorry we had that tiny little privacy issue...we'll get right on that in the next sprint...". And winning the message war.

It's not a 'leak'. It's in the T&Cs you agreed to. This is the business plan.

dgellow 11 hours ago||
I’m not sure. It could definitely be incompetence. We are talking about an industry rushing as fast as possible in every directions, their systems are very likely a complete mess. I really wouldn’t be surprised if advertisers are getting that data for free just because the AI labs didn’t bother
coliveira 10 hours ago||
It's because of people like you that these companies have a free ride. When we're talking about billion dollar companies there's no such thing as a "mistake", because they need to be held accountable for everything that they do. Thinking otherwise let them keep the rewards while getting away with anything wrong they cause to society.
wtetzner 10 hours ago||
Just because something is due to incompetence instead of malice doesn't mean they shouldn't be held accountable.
yoyohello13 9 hours ago||
Blaming incompetence instead of malice is always used as a backlash diffusion mechanism. We should stop attributing incompetence to obvious malice.
paimapi 9 hours ago|||
there's always some organizational, systematized intent in the creation of incompetence. all organizations should be accountable for it's workers and their adherence to policy - it's why safety regulations and training exist, after all

if you have an individual who has been sexually harassing others regularly the problem exists both with the individual and with there not being clear reporting standards, remediation processes, and person-by-person training opportunities (or only offering lackluster, barely enforced versions of the training)

organizations, especially ones as large and well-funded as LLM model providers that can hire whole fleets of trainers, ethics watchdogs, etc, that then produce large-scale, systematic incompetence are and should be the primary culprit and the one targeted by accountability processes

outside of someone just straight up embezzling funds or grossly misusing their power, organizations should also bear the brunt of the culpability especially when it relates to harms to the public good, especially if those harms benefit the organizations directly. and even in those cases the question becomes why weren't there accountability practices? checks on power? etc

dgellow 8 hours ago|||
Those companies are grossly incompetent to the point of committing what is likely to be felonies. If you think I’m deflecting you’re misguided, I’ve been advocating for months for the AI labs to be shutdown and their leadership investigated for gross negligence and potential crimes.

I would still bet they aren’t making any money from data leaking to advertisers

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