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Posted by crorella 9 hours ago

GPT 6.1 Sol: Near-Astra intelligence for a fifth of the price(openai.com)
774 points | 720 commentspage 6
KingOfMyRoom 6 hours ago|
The main issue I have is how they nerf their models and the quality difference between API users and their subscribers.
medler 6 hours ago|
What is the quality difference between the API and subscriptions?
arctic-true 8 hours ago||
It’ll be interesting to see what happens to the economics of this business if we hit a wall on peak intelligence but keep finding cool ways to lower prices.
alvis 8 hours ago||
Cache is priced at $0.1/M, 50% as sol 6 and sonnet 5.5.
thefounder 8 hours ago||
They need to fix Astra first. My main issue is with GPT in general is that unless steered it goes into building AI “sloppiness”/machinery that is not “needed”.

The good part is that this kind of behaviour also makes it good to find subtle bugs or debug issues that Fable/Claude just cannot get/fix even when you point it.

hlynurd 9 hours ago||
Weren't there headlines just yesterday that they weren't releasing this due to safety concerns?
pkulak 8 hours ago||
That was 6.1 Astra. And I'm assuming it's being tabled because it still doesn't match Opus 5.5.

This is a decent win though, if it really is better. 6-sol was really no good, at least in my work.

cmrdporcupine 8 hours ago||
6 Sol was worse than 5.6 Sol from my own experiences. Far worse.

Will see if this remedies things.

pkulak 8 hours ago||
Yup, same experience here. I used it for one day, spent the next day fixing its lousy code, then went back to 5.6.
tedsanders 9 hours ago||
GPT-6.1 Astra is what those headlines referred to. This is GPT-6.1 Sol.
thejazzman 8 hours ago||
"no homerS -- we're allowed to have one"

https://amphetamem.es/meme?id=the-simpsons_06_12_71&text=We%...

nicce 8 hours ago||
It is hard to trust these scores. GPP 6 Sol has been so bad for few days.
mekpro 8 hours ago||
Why they are not even benchmark model against Anthropic or anybody ?
AmazingTurtle 6 hours ago||
regarding the new pro max subscription btw:

it's 500$ for 25x the plus usage, thats pro (max).

this implies that the old 200$ 20x pro (more) is now more like 10x the usage of plus.

they are slashing our subscriptions in half and make it "but we're more efficient!"

user43928 5 hours ago|
Which they are, so another way to see it would be that they make the API/enterprise cheaper.

However, I don't know how future larger models such as the cancelled 6.1 Astra will be priced.

If the price stays high, this would indeed be quite bad for the $200 subscription..

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