Dots: Always-on agents

Posted by alvis 14 hours ago

547 points | 405 commentspage 13

petesergeant 13 hours ago|

I spend literally all my work day, and a good bit of my personal time, talking to agents, getting them to do things on my behalf. Almost always pretty tightly sandboxed. I just don't understand how people using these things haven't had catastrophic failures yet.

I minted what I thought was a minimal-permission Github token for a single action, and the agent I gave it to discovered it had more permissions than I thought, and made use of those permissions. Who is trusting these things with write access to their lives?

AspireOne 7 hours ago||

I have the opposite approach to you.

- AI is sitting on my two personal servers as root with unrestricted access to everything. I task them with deploying stuff, checking and patching security holes, reconfiguring the firewall, etcetera. It literally never failed at anything, didn't go "off the rails", didn't break anything.

- The other day, in order to deploy a fork of Plane.so, I gave an AI an full-permission token to my Coolify, to my Cloudflare account (so it could change DNS and Tunnel settings), and unrestricted SSH access to my server and to my browser via the Playwright Chrome extension. No issues.

- I have AI running unrestricted on my computer doing all kinds of stuff.

I literally never had any issues with this approach. Not a single one. I don't think there's as much of a need for sandboxing as some people would like to believe.

petesergeant 1 hour ago||

It is always interesting to get another perspective, and I’ve also found agents to be very good at sysadmin work, including Coolify! But again, I very tightly control what agent has access to what.

Maybe you’re lucky, or maybe the examples I’ve seen (and experienced) of agent overreach are particularly unlucky. I guess at this point it’s about personal comfort level, and mine doesn’t support that type of unfettered access yet.

solooperator1 12 hours ago||

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simianwords 13 hours ago||

I hear that Dots don't count towards usage, is that true?

alienbaby 12 hours ago|

chatting with your dots does not. work dots do, does.

etchalon 13 hours ago||

At some point a designer is going to come up with a visualization for an agent that isn't "amorphous character blob".

jdw64 13 hours ago||

I heard they use GPT Space (like Notion) together with Slack and use it like a human colleague, but watching the actual demo video, the speed is so slow it's shocking..

gnarlouse 12 hours ago||

I love stuffing eldritch horror inside a teddie bear plushie. So perfectly a caricature of modern tech-dystopianism.

God I want the fucking market to crash

waterTanuki 2 hours ago||

Early on in my career as a software engineer, I was told by my managers that I had to sell my ideas as an elevator pitch to get anywhere. If I couldn't explain why a feature or fix would improve the business, it would go into the wastebin.

Colour me surprised then when I see, since circa 2024, an absolute deluge of AI products coming from these companies, each with their own naming scheme, marketing page, and accompanying hype post, and despite giving them MORE than the 30 second elevator pitch interval, I am left not understanding what it is they want to sell me. I have claude, I have codex, I get my work done just fine with each. I don't need another product for this. Any software these companies try pushing always ends up being something I could've made with their own AI models in a day and then never end up using. What's the end game here? What's the goal? What's the moat? I'm not sold on a single product outside of codex and claude code.

AlfredBarnes 13 hours ago||

Muse and now Dot's emergence in popularity makes me think Apple's "lil Finder" will be their take on it.

bentt 9 hours ago||

Zuckerberg: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuckerberg: Just ask

Zuckerberg: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuckerberg: People just submitted it.

Zuckerberg: I don't know why.

Zuckerberg: They "trust me"

Zuckerberg: Dumb fucks

VonLuderitz 11 hours ago|

The 3D print in 0:06 is failing LOL

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