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Posted by alvis 8 hours ago

Dots: Always-on agents(openai.com)
449 points | 339 commentspage 5
VonLuderitz 5 hours ago|
I'm doing this since April with HermesAgent and Telegram.

Why I need pay a Trillion dollar company who keeps copying opensource projects?

No Thanks

nusl 5 hours ago||
I have the feeling that this is going to open the floodgates for persistent autonomous agents, moreso than what's already been happening. Similar to when Apple does something that was already being done. Let's see.
alpineman 6 hours ago||
I’m sure this is appealing for many people, but for myself using AI agents all day anyway, it honestly sounds exhausting.
cavoirom 7 hours ago||
I feel the AI provider doesn't get the points, every harness they created will lock-in with their model (why din't they?), this prevent the adoption because people scare vendor lock-in. They may develop these harness within a provider neutral company (owned by them), the harness may success when combining with competitor models, they still gain benefits.
beering 7 hours ago|
What’s the actual lock-in, in practice? Seems like the switching cost is minimal, compared to the old days of Windows vs Mac where half your stuff wouldn’t run on the other.
cavoirom 6 hours ago||
Because the harness is in its early form. The more advanced harness in the current time look like Amp:

- Cloud workspace (Orb) and agents.

- Multiple agents with different LLMs and system prompts for different roles (Main, Librarian, Oracle...).

- A universal agent (Puck) for managing the whole workspaces.

- Web app or native app to work from any devices.

- Support subcriptions and API keys.

lxgr 7 hours ago||
Interesting, so they're not available in the "plus" plan?

$100 is a pretty tough sell when the competition starts at free (Meta Muse).

6thbit 6 hours ago|
Quite an upsell from $20 to $100 to get dots, especially in non-US markets.

On the other hand, Meta is not making money from muse base tier yet.

So, if OAI finds a way to make money the same way meta would for their free tier, maybe they follow suit.

resiros 6 hours ago||
In case you are looking for an open-source alternative without vendor lock-in (https://github.com/agenta-ai/agenta) [although less personal assistant and more targeted towards teams and work]
dist-epoch 4 hours ago|
This looks really cool, thanks for making it!

I see that Slack/Discord/... are on the roadmap, but I also see that Slack can be added as an Integration, so I guess what's missing is inviting Agenta to Slack or messaging it directly?

Also, you might want to update the changelog (or remove it), I thought initially that development slowed down, last release listed there 3 weeks ago, but on github I see frequent recent releases.

_ink_ 3 hours ago||
I want that, but running on my own hardware with the models I choose. Does it exist?
rheisen_ 3 hours ago|
https://blackbear.app, give me a few more weeks for the "always on" agents, but yeah, this is way more private and secure. runs locally on your hardware with the models you choose.
mgaunard 5 hours ago||
The main issue with mainstream AI is lack of a decent cloud agentic harness on a free tier.

This is just a sub-par harness on the most expensive tier. If you're paying thousands a month for AI surely you can rent your own EC2 instance.

6thbit 6 hours ago||
I had forgotten OAI bought openclaw this year. Are dots are what came out of buying that team?
interloxia 5 hours ago|
It would have been neat if they cooperatively updated the board meeting deck using the sensory activity board. The giant dial is similar to our Tonieplay.
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