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Posted by alvis 9 hours ago

Dots: Always-on agents(openai.com)
469 points | 356 commentspage 7
softwaredoug 9 hours ago|
So this is like OpenClaw but managed and first class?
mindtricks 9 hours ago||
This approach probably wont land well here, but it's still interesting to see each frontier's evolving approach to working with AI.
ceuk 9 hours ago||
Incredibly advanced technology but I bet it still won't let me integrate with more than one Gmail account at the same time..
vb-8448 9 hours ago||
They finally managed to get rid of project, middle and top managers!

Next natural step: CEOs staring tens of dots to control other humans and agents XD

Trasmatta 9 hours ago|
In actuality, it feels a lot more like project and middle managers getting rid of ICs

I can feel it in the air, every single software business is itching to get rid of as many developers as possible, and move everything to their PMs. Hiring has already almost completely stopped, and some have already started the layoffs. More will come.

vb-8448 5 hours ago||
Project and top/middle managers exists basically to keep track of what other people are doing and to make sure deadlines are met and processes are followed.

A "dot" can replace easily tons of them.

teamonkey 4 hours ago||
“The aunties, continually mulling it over. A process akin to repetitious dreaming, or the protracted spinning of a given fiction. Not that they’re invariably correct, but over a sufficient course they do tend to find the likely suspects.”
gordon_freeman 8 hours ago||
On a side note, The video feels so cold and the set where this was filmed seems a bit creepy to me.
tinyhouse 9 hours ago||
One way that I find the AI space boring is that everyone is working on the same things. The release of Jev was a breath of fresh air.
rolosa 9 hours ago||
Are they not releasing a Jev competitor as well?

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Decisions API Decisions API enables real-time decision-making by focusing Luna's intelligence on a specific set of user-defined questions with finite pre-defined answers. Developers supply context using text or images, and get back answers they can use to classify content, route requests, or choose an agent’s next action.

Available in limited preview today with a broad release planned in the coming days.

OutOfHere 8 hours ago||
It seems a bit silly since OpenAI LLMs already can output structured data.
mchusma 8 hours ago||
Jev is orders of magnitudes cheaper and faster, its a very interesting new paradigm. (Jev pioneered this about 2-3 weeks ago).
OutOfHere 8 hours ago||
But is one approach better calibrated and more accurate than the other? And are you implying that OpenAI will use a Jev-like approach?
gh0stcat 9 hours ago||
How about the fact that anthropic and openai's product pages are the exact same thing, down to text bullet points. They're the same thing, only able to copy each other, only able to optimize to some vague mean.

https://chatgpt.com/#pricing https://claude.com/pricing

It all just looks the same. I get that this isn't the technical details, but it just sends this message that everyone is copying each other all the time, this is the best way to organize a pricing page, etc. Just a weird, eerie feeling.

tinyhouse 9 hours ago||
To Anthropic's credit, I find their overall design so much better than OpenAI's.
AspireOne 3 hours ago||
I find OpenAI's vastly more appealing. Interesting how taste varies.
creposukre 9 hours ago||
I can imagine Dots dating other Dots on behalf of their respective users in the near future, à la Black Mirror
randypewick 9 hours ago||
always on agents are an obvious step: they need more data to grow and improve their models. humans learn continuously and we are always on, why should an agent be any different? I have no problem with this kind of tech, but I do have problems with the company, so, thank you, but no thank you.
frangonf 8 hours ago|
So the industry is pushing heavily into openclawing their products, "cutemorphizing" the clanker shape and is slackifying the UX so that we can have the familiar UI/UX for the general public and turn the tools more proactive without leaving them too lost.

I think it's a great approach for enterprise since interacting with the machines as a babysitted pet disposable entity is the meta today with human workers. I'm excited to start my new role next month as tamagotchi engineer.

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