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Posted by bradleyg223 9 hours ago

Gemini 4 Argon(blog.google)
See also: Gemini 4 Argon (High): Intelligence, Performance and Price Analysis - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49914236
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tomjen3 9 hours ago|
This is a prerelease and the title should have reflected that.
sergiotapia 9 hours ago||
I've noticed all major providers having shockingly high token discounts on cached tokens. Thank you Deepseek is all I have to say. Forever grateful to that wonderful company, I wish them continued financial success.
davmar 8 hours ago|
Agreed. I’ve been a big deepseek fan since 3.1, and they keep delivering great models at a great price.
mrshadowgoose 9 hours ago||
On the off chance there are Google execs going through this thread:

Google, if you've actually managed to catch up again, please don't fuck this up (again).

You made Gemini 2.5 Pro so difficult to use that myself and everyone else I know (who even bothered to try) just gave up and used something else. If you make this hard to access, you're going to miss out on rich usage-based training data that you need to progress your capability frontier. Again.

Razengan 9 hours ago||
Oh we're down to gas names now?

Goshdarnit they didn't see my suggestion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49899171

fragmede 9 hours ago|
If the model that ends humanity is called Cthulhu, you'll have the last laugh though.
Razengan 9 hours ago||
A true Lovecraftian knows Cthulhu is small fry on the grand scale of multidimensional things :)
pllbnk 8 hours ago||
Other than not being available publicly, I find it extremely disappointing about Google’s two-faced behavior. CEO signs an official document with POTUS stating that AI is now SI, but the release of the new model doesn’t mention SI even once. Even worse, it’s AI all over that page.
lukewarm707 7 hours ago||
I don't have access; this is meaningless to me.

So, this is the third (I think) big AI corporation after OpenAI and Anthropic to release general models for elites only.

Don't use this model unless you like sitting under the table and eating crumbs off the floor.

chaostheory 7 hours ago||
What keeps both Gemini and Grok from actually being frontier class AIs is effort. Both AIs rush to give you a response even when the effort is set to the highest setting. Hopefully, Argon isn’t as prone to satisficing and premature convergence compared to its predecessor
Starlevel004 8 hours ago||
I'll consider it if they let me use a subscription with a custom harness, like Codex does. Until then, no thanks.
Rover222 8 hours ago||
Wen gemini desktop coding app?
mvdtnz 8 hours ago|
More Cartmanland marketing. It's the best park ever, and you can't come!

Get lost.

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