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Posted by sergiotapia 4 hours ago

Pi 1.0(earendil.com)
531 points | 184 commentspage 3
fhn 1 hour ago|
I keep reading positive comments about Pi but it never worked well for me. Hermes just worked.
2001zhaozhao 1 hour ago||
FINALLY, I can support Pi in my orchestrator system that relies on integrating agents with my custom MCP server.
trvz 2 hours ago||
This should’ve been version 3.14.
the_mitsuhiko 2 hours ago||
We did not want to waste this opportunity this early but we released at 3:14 ET :)
amelius 2 hours ago||
And every later version should add a digit.

https://tex64.com/learn/getting-started/about

rcarmo 2 hours ago||
Neat, but I keep having to edit the pi stub to remove the "/bin/env node" and replace that with bun instead, because, well, somehow that's still hardcoded.
ricardobeat 1 hour ago||
I enjoyed Pi for a few weeks, but ultimately moved to other harnesses - the plugin ecosystem became a sea of slop, large vibecoded projects that don't work at all, and yet have thousands of stars. At some point I gave up trying to get subagents working.
bityard 1 hour ago|
I had the same concern last time I looked at Pi. There's no way to tell which are useful and semi-vetted and which are junk. I came to the conclusion that most people had their AI build them whatever plugin they needed, and I think this is even something they recommend.

What harnesses do you recommend?

MisterBiggs 3 hours ago||
I've been full time building on pi since January and its been incredible. I'm not sure what they did to make it so easy to vibe code against but agents really just "get it".
ad_fontes 3 hours ago|
Can you explain your workflow a bit please? Do any of these tools work with Claude/Codex subscriptions or are they API only?

I actually built my own tool that maintains a work graph (DAG-like) with task leases. It allows me to copy and paste pre-written prompts into Claude Code, Codex, or OpenCode and all the agents self-coordinate through MCP calls.

I built this after trying hermes and Openclaw but not liking the lack of human-in-the-loop judgement. So I'm wondering if I should keep refining my tool, or evaluate something like pi?

vblanco 3 hours ago||
Built in codemode is rather nice. Its the feature i like the most from OMP which is Pi + lots of plugins.
semiquaver 3 hours ago|
I know this is going to get downvoted but what drives people to use javascript of all languages to build these fundamental pieces of tooling? We have so many better options, especially now since humans aren’t writing most of the code. It’s hard to take seriously anyone that wants to make a primarily CLI tool with heavy interactivity and parallelism requirements and decides to use a joke language that happened to luck its way into prominence because of web browsers.
droidjj 2 hours ago||
I wouldn't go as far as calling it a joke language (in some ways, it's incredible), but I did come here wondering if other people felt this way. The language choice has always confused me.

On the other hand, I don't think there's anything Pi does that another language would do noticeably better from a user's perspective. Any performance complaints I have using Pi come from twiddling my thumbs waiting for Sam Altman's servers to bestow tokens upon me.

At any rate, they'll probably have Opus 6.5 and GPT-7 Galactica rewrite it in rust in a couple months...

pezgordo 3 hours ago|||
What would be a better language? Most of the harness apps will be spending most of their time waiting for the models response and tool calling rather than running their code.

Languages with less opensource footprint or too verbose are at the losing side in a llm-driven world.

semiquaver 1 hour ago|||
Go, rust, zig would be my choices in that order.

> most of their time waiting for the models response and tool calling rather than running their code.

You’d think that! Yet claude-code spends a very surprising amount of CPU just doing text layout work and other mysterious things, likely due to their decision to use React to build a TUI for some reason.

nicce 2 hours ago|||
I feel like TypeScript is very verbose language to be honest.
arecsu 2 hours ago|||
Pi is extensible, and to iterate new extensions, install them, create your own, even if the agents needs to, it is much faster and easier to manage that than a compiled language I would suppose. Most of the time it's really the waiting time than anything else. If any, the "resource intensive" parts of the app could be turned into low-level extensions such as writing or reading files, maybe, but the main part of the app makes total sense. The language and ecosystem is fairly accessible as well, which serves as a further argument. Interesting choice of words when it comes to calling it "joke language" really.
crooked-v 2 hours ago||
One reason: it's really easy to have a lightning-fast dev loop when the entire running process can hot-swap almost every piece of code, when then also extends to all extensions written against the core functionality.
razster 1 hour ago||
Which I believe is what the developer was looking to do. I personally enjoy it being JavaScript. I've had it redo some functions on the fly which to me is perfect.
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