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Posted by sergiotapia 5 hours ago

Pi 1.0(earendil.com)
Related: Pi Durable - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49925969
668 points | 221 commentspage 5
Computer0 5 hours ago|
Cool I hope to try it someday when I can run a local model good enough for coding. Until then I will probably stay with opencode for the time being.
pizzafeelsright 5 hours ago||
Local Qwen 3.5 on CPU was good enough for small tasks.
KeplerBoy 4 hours ago||
You can use it with oai subscriptions
lionkor 4 hours ago||
I love how consistent pi has been, especially in regards to not breaking ux
popalchemist 4 hours ago||
Does this replace Claude Code in VS Code entirely?
rickreynoldssf 5 hours ago||
This is hitting at the right time. Codex is already in the enshitification phase. They just broke their CLI version with some new thing that no one likes.
andix 3 hours ago||
Im disappointed. I’ve expected a bump to 3.14.x
rubing 2 hours ago||
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k4rnaj1k 4 hours ago||
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wgd 4 hours ago|
Sigh, looks like Pi's days as a nice minimal agent TUI are numbered. I guess no third-party offering can fight that entropy for long and I'll just have to polish up one of my toy projects for personal use.
badlogic 4 hours ago|
I've read this a bunch of times around socials now these past days and I'd really like to understand what exactly indicates that the minimal agent TUI days are numbered for Pi?

I did not read this when I added support for AGENTS.md, skills, llama.cpp, extensions, alt TUI mode, mid-convo system messages and tool set changes to preserve KV cache, image model support, and everything else I added since November last year.

Codemode and MCP support are the latest additions. We follow what the models are trained on. E.g. the GPT family of models is actually trained on codemode for parallel tool calls now. The MCP spec has gotten a major update recently that makes it much less bad than it used to be in the past 24 months. Combined with codemode, it is now passable, so it got added to pi.

All of these features are still entirely optional and the only thing I could think of that could be considered "bloat" is the additional few megabytes for the QuickJS WASM blob.

So, I mean this in earenst and absolutely not combative: could you explain what exactly flips the switch between "pi is minimal" and "pi is not minimal"?

wgd 4 hours ago|||
Fullscreen mode as the default is a big one, I prefer my agent harness to be a CLI rather than a TUI and in fact my personal one doesn't even try to wrap text. Pure CLI output model.

That said I also dislike many of those other changes and would prefer a hypothetical version of Pi which didn't have them, so this is in some sense just me looking up at the sound of a v1.0 release and realizing "oh hey, I don't really like the direction this has been trending for a while"

steezeburger 16 minutes ago|||
> and would prefer a hypothetical version of Pi which didn't have them

If only there was some way to... ah no time to be snarky. It's open source and MIT licensed and you're in a thread discussing AI coding agents.

badlogic 3 hours ago|||
Cheers, appreciate the answer!
realty_geek 3 hours ago||||
Must be super frustrating for you to hear that.

Sounds to me like things people say just to have something to say. True, it is good to listen to feedback but feedback without evidence is only going to waste your time.

Thanks for all your hard work and keep going in the direction that makes sense to you!

girvo 3 hours ago||||
Fullscreen mode is my only real gripe. That kind of terminal behaviour is exactly what I was trying to get away from. My work's agent (that I use Pi to replace) does this and it is annoying as all get out... but I haven't tried yours yet, so we will see. Hopefully your implementation is better!
rcarmo 3 hours ago|||
Well, I'm happy. Thanks for the new harness, ripping out the guts of piclaw to use it, and also flipped a few other small tools to pi-durable, which is nicely streamlined.

I can't for the life of me figure out why people would think pi is bloated.