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Posted by rafaelc 2 hours ago

Car Is a Smartphone on Wheels. Here's Who's Listening(automatictransmission.khoury.northeastern.edu)
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kazinator 1 hour ago|
What is the situation like for people who rip out the entertainment system out of older cars and install Android Auto? How "bad" is that?
YuccaGloriosa 1 hour ago||
And this is without even looking at any Chinese manufactured vehicles...
sb057 45 minutes ago||
...Adobe? What interest do they have in data harvesting so much from vehicles?
newspaper1 1 hour ago||
I don't trust any of my devices anymore (including/especially my car). At the very least I figure that they're spying on me. In the most extreme cases, such as Israel's terrorist pager attack, they may even kill you.

I wonder if this is going to create a market for older tech/vehicles that were made prior to ease-of-malware integration? I imagine some sort of cyberpunk future where people are scouring landfills for old 16-bit video game console chips that haven't been backdoored.

asdff 40 minutes ago||
Wouldn't be surprised if in a few decades you see the ultra elite start favoring older maybe early 2010s at most cars. The risk surface of a modern car is astounding. I mean cellular connection and drive by wire, screw planting a car bomb, you just steer it off a cliff from your arm chair halfway across the world and it looks like an honest accident to boot. The old cars on the other hand are airgapped. You actually need physical access to sabotage them. Risk surface is so much lower.
mahboi 4 minutes ago||
I like to think of myself as ultra-elite driving my Crown Vic PI
matltc 1 hour ago|||
I feel seen. I used to think rms was just a crank, but maybe he was right all along: I increasingly treat any closed-source software (and even some open-source--vscode for instance) as hostile and untrusted.
Ccecil 1 hour ago||
I was kinda wondering the same. Only issue will be when insurance companies refuse to insure you because they can't get the "commonly available" data.
newspaper1 1 hour ago||
Good point, the best bet is probably to move to a walkable city and get an e-bike that you put together yourself.
stego-tech 1 hour ago||
When I buy an EV, one of the first things I intend to do is disable or block the chips using Wi-Fi and/or cellular from broadcasting further. If that means a faraday shield around the computers in question, so be it.

Everything I need can be handled via CarPlay or physical dials/buttons in the vehicle. All this surveillance - on post-COVID priced vehicles no less, averaging ~$50k - is absurd, and I refuse to engage with it.

drnick1 31 minutes ago||
This is the right way to deal with the problem. I would simply pull the fuse or unplug the cellular modem though.
xelaboi 1 hour ago||
Some cars you can just pull the fuse on the ECU with the modem.
jamesforestwest 1 hour ago||
It's so annoying, actually. I’d rather not switch to a newer car because of it.
mahboi 1 hour ago|
I hate everything about newer cars except for the power/efficiency. And luckily I don't drive enough to care about that.
iamronaldo 1 hour ago||
Not to take away from the point but wow absolute ai slop of a website
Marsymars 19 minutes ago||
Yeah, my AI-slop-detector isn't very good, but this one really jumped out at me.

I'd look at the Consumer Reports page if you don't want to read the paper linked in a sibling comment: https://www.consumerreports.org/electronics/personal-informa...

trickypr 1 hour ago|||
I think it does take away from the point. I could not be bothered trying to filter the information out of whatever this llm layout is.
esafak 53 minutes ago||
Just read the paper instead: https://automatictransmission.khoury.northeastern.edu/paper....
theowaway 1 hour ago|
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