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Posted by bookofjoe 3 days ago

How to save a life without knowing CPR(bookofjoe2.blogspot.com)
46 points | 30 commentspage 2
davidw 2 hours ago|
Step 0: call 911 or whatever your country's equivalent is.
tomchuk 1 hour ago||
On a whim, I did EMT-B training a few years ago. Part of that course is a responder-level CPR cert. Through muscle memory, one of my fellow students jumped on scene during the evaluation, and the first thing she did was instruct a bystander to "Call 911!"

To which the evaluator responded, "You are 911"

felixg3 2 minutes ago|||
It’s essentially 112 (at least as a secondary number) almost all around the world thanks to ITU
Ccecil 1 hour ago|||
That's what they taught us in Boy Scouts. Very first step is to get help.

Have someone call 911 (or whatever number in your country) immediately. If nobody is nearby start yelling.

Only one time in my life have I had to perform CPR (was already too late) but it is amazing how much of what I learned when I was 11 years old stuck with me.

Get help, check airway for obstructions...etc. Most importantly...take a CPR class sometime in your life and do what they say. The "ABC" of airway, breathing, circulation they taught us may not be current advice.

Sidenote: Don't be too hard on yourself if you don't save a life...even the pros say unless the patient is young/healthy you likely won't.

Edit: The feeling when the pros actually show up (in the case where I was doing CPR within minutes) is one of the biggest reliefs I have had in my life. Even knowing CPR...you feel helpless until they show up. And once they do, ask immediately if they need you. If not...get out of the way.

ortusdux 1 hour ago|||
>The "ABC" of airway, breathing, circulation they taught us may not be current advice.

https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/resources/articles/abc...

Some experts believe that some situations may see better outcomes if circulation is prioritized over respiration. Most experts agree that it is still best to teach ABC.

_jackdk_ 58 minutes ago|||
> The "ABC" of airway, breathing, circulation they taught us may not be current advice.

The version taught in Australian first aid classes is DRSABCD: check for (D)anger, check for patient (R)esponse, (S)end for help, (A)irway, (B)reathing, (C)irculation.

ortusdux 52 minutes ago||
Part of the reason they teach "ABC" is it is simple and easy to remember, especially in an emergency. I've reread DRSABCD a dozen times now and I guarantee I will have forgotten it in a few minutes. Case in point, you missed (D)efibrillation...
_jackdk_ 18 minutes ago||
That's fair. They teach it as "Dr's ABCD", which is a reasonable mnemonic.
groestl 1 hour ago||
Step -1: touch somebody and tell them to call 911.
pockybum522 1 hour ago||
I was taught "point at someone and tell them 'you, specifically, call 911'" but I like touch a lot better. Makes more sense for getting someone to actually do it.
ortusdux 22 minutes ago|||
I've found "You, what's your name? Steven? Steven, can you call 911 right now?" to be very effective. It breaks the ice with a very easy task. It can also help later when you need to need to find, describe, follow up with, or thank the person.
technothrasher 1 hour ago||||
Touching someone when asking them to do something is a well known psychological trick. It immediately increases intimacy, which makes the person more likely to do what you ask. Though it can also backfire if the person is particularly sensitive and finds the intimacy uncomfortable.
djoldman 1 hour ago|||
I had this directive as well.

I was told to point at someone and say, "YOU. Call 911."

iyonn 1 hour ago||
I wonder how small or quantized would a llm have to be to hallucinate such a stupid thing
thisisauserid 1 hour ago|
Didn't read but bookmarked for later in case something happens and I need it.
e40 1 hour ago||
It's absurdly short, recommend reading. However, I have no idea if it's correct.
bluGill 53 minutes ago|||
Discussion seems to agree it doesn't work. What works is calling 911 (or local emergency number), which gets help and instruction over the phone from experts in the latest. I've been doing CPR classes every few years for 30 years - a lot has changed over that time (but not once did I hear this for CPR - shock yes, but not heart problems), but they still teach CPR over the phone to surprisingly good results.
ktallett 1 hour ago|||
Yeah I doubt you would look like someone who could be trusted with saving a life if you did this in an emergency scenario
ktallett 1 hour ago|||
Lay them down and hold their legs up.
whackernews 1 hour ago|||
Lol