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Posted by paveworld 22 hours ago

Tell HN: Bob Cringely has died

I heard from a friend of the family that Bob passed away in his sleep early Saturday. Very sad news. Bob, who's real name was Mark Stevens, was an early employee of Apple and was best known for his PBS documentaries, especially "Triumph of the Nerds". He will be missed.
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ody3 47 minutes ago|
That is terrible. I used to love reading his articles over the years. Here is a tribute site to his work - https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/i-humanoid/
havaloc 20 hours ago||
When searching to verify the veracity of this, this post made me laugh: https://www.cringely.com/2020/01/23/not-dead-yet-what-bob-cr... (Circa 2020).
derekdahmer 19 hours ago||
Cool story but after doing some digging it’s likely not true.

https://www.jeremyreimer.com/rockets-item.lsp?f=true&p=272

PlunderBunny 14 hours ago|||
Everyone should read the above. Cringely had so many stories where he seemed to be part of, or present to witness, significant events in the computer industry - after a while you become suspicious that one person could really do/see all these things. Like he was a 'Forrest Gump' of technology.
stevenwoo 6 hours ago|||
This happens in first episode of recent East of Eden adaptation when Cyrus Trask claims to have been at all the major Civil War battles.
HarHarVeryFunny 8 hours ago|||
Sounds more like Woody Allen's 'Zelig'.
stonedivot 8 hours ago||||
This absolutely needs to be read by anyone here speaking of this man like some kind of tech god
specialist 7 hours ago||
He was a gossip, gadfly, observer, and tinkerer who also wrote well (for his audience).

Like Dvorak and others, twas just a bit of entertainment, until it wasn't.

Thoroughly enjoyed his works (warts and all), learned a few things, and remain deeply disappointed that NerdTV didn't become a thing.

RIP

GaryBluto 18 hours ago||||
Unfortunate, but an excellent moral story about how lies can snowball quickly.
wyclif 9 hours ago||||
So 12 hours later (or so), there's still no confirmation that he actually died.
testplzignore 12 hours ago||||
Makes me wonder if he's actually dead...
pessimizer 6 hours ago||||
I really liked the guy, and his speculations about IBM.

But it's wild to get involved in a Kickstarter involving the star of Plane Crazy. When I watched Kickstarters fail and the people who started them grow increasingly unstable, I would always think about Plane Crazy.

Too bad that it didn't get a lot of distribution; there's a link on this HN thread pointing to a copy on youtube that was taped off PBS in Chicago, and I literally saw it on WTTW in Chicago. I don't know where it could really be marketed - it might be great to reedit it into a feature.

But its theme is that Cringely would bite off more than he can chew during what one might not recognize as a mania. You would see this pattern in almost everything he did, unless he was lucky enough to get it right on the first try.

1) he would make a lot of promises based on a dream of accomplishing something that no one had ever done before,

2) experts he would consult would tell him that they didn't think it was possible, but that they'd be happy to be surprised,

3) as the problems would pile up and he would gradually come to the realization that he was going to fail, he would first look at those problems as interesting challenges,

4) improvise inadequate solutions to show he could meet those challenges,

5) ignore the experts who criticize those inadequate solutions, and that tell him that these were the problems that made them think this was impossible in the first place,

6) mock and attack the experts who criticized his inadequate solutions (likely as stuck in the past or jealous of a non-expert invading their turf),

7) then start to conceal new and compounding problems,

8) then fully and knowingly lie about the problems (likely justified to himself as simply buying time for one fix he's obsessing upon to work),

9) then start to blame people who don't believe those lies for inadequately supporting him (he just needs a little bit more time),

10) then attack those people - his investors, friends and family (I just need another day or two!),

11) then attack himself for being low enough to attack the people who believe in him and love him,

12) then consider suicide.

Have there been any "Plane Crazy"-style documentaries about any of the spectacular Kickstarter failures?

chillup 13 hours ago|||
The Jason Arday of technology columnists.
mproud 17 hours ago||
And previously this: https://www.cringely.com/2013/04/07/cringely-comes-back-from...
Keyframe 19 hours ago||
Sad to hear that, apart things already mention I'd like to point out his NerdTV interviews - especially Dan Drake one (Autodesk co-founder). I always suspected, but that interview kind of validated how Autodesk went after competition as a strategy (to buy them outright). You can watch them all here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NerdTV
joshdavham 17 hours ago|
Interesting! I actually work at Autodesk and my job is mainly to help users of acquired product A move over to (also) acquired product B (product B was previously a competitor of product A). I guess this acquisition culture must’ve been around long before me!
joosebox 17 hours ago|||
What’s that job role titled? I’m looking for work and that seems like something I could be okay at, and likely in demand enough to offer realistic prospects. Thanks in advance.
DonHopkins 14 hours ago|||
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ody3 48 minutes ago||
That's terrible. I used to love reading his articles. Here is a tribute site for him - https://i-humanoid.netlify.app/i-humanoid/
sm001 2 hours ago||
I want to offer my condolences to his family and business partner(s). I read his columns for many years. Loved his style and smarts. I particularly enjoyed reading some of the comments and his answers, often as enlightening as the column itself. This sudden death could happen to me, so I am more appreciative of being alive today.
glokta 20 hours ago||
I loved the book Accidental Empires, and it inspired me to become a programmer. RIP Bob. You were the best.
kristopolous 19 hours ago||
For historical technology, one of the must reads along with Soul of a New Machine and Hackers
refulgentis 20 hours ago||
+1. 38 year old now, probably read it when I was 10. And it still has a special place in my heart, I was just thinking about picking up a copy last week. RIP.
someperson 19 hours ago||
This is a famous documentary from him: https://youtu.be/toSRmKKiosQ?is=kj1fkHSfpGsLoBVf
avadiax 20 hours ago||
Just to confirm ... this Bob Cringely?

https://www.cringely.com/bout-bob/

dewarrn1 19 hours ago||
A sad irony in the title of one of his last blog posts, "Not dead yet! What Bob Cringely has been up to…". https://www.cringely.com/2020/01/23/not-dead-yet-what-bob-cr...
mproud 17 hours ago||
Previously: https://www.cringely.com/2013/04/07/cringely-comes-back-from...
dewarrn1 7 hours ago|||
It would be quite an encore if he pulled this off one last time.
lelandfe 14 hours ago|||
I never read this dude’s stuff but by golly is it just stuffed with humanity. I feel like I’m talking with the man reading these.
JumpCrisscross 20 hours ago||
Yes. RIP.
wormius 17 hours ago||
RIP. Damn and Dvorak died earlier this year? What a sad year for legendary computer columnists.
roryirvine 13 hours ago||
It's a pity that new media has never really thrown up a replacement for those sort of columnists, isn't it? Negroponte in Wired, Douglas Adams in MacUser, and (slightly more obscure!) Dave Langford's work in various Amstrad PCW magazines in the UK.

Slashdot did experiment a little with Jon Katz, most notably his 'Voices from the Hellmouth' series, but he was never really aiming to sound the same note of wry detachment as those magazine greats.

It's a pity - I'd rather read a monthly column of that sort than any amount of pointless bickering on Twitter.

scruss 1 hour ago|||
Aah! Don't make me worried about Langford!

He appears to be fine, and just published Ansible® 471: https://news.ansible.uk/a471.html

dbspin 11 hours ago||||
To quote Fran Lebowtiz "A great audience is more important for the creation of great art than great artists are"... We've lost a great, ironic, self aware informed commentariat because a literate, emotionally stable audience for long form content has shrunk. Which means the work isn't there (or at least isn't distributed beyond a few substacks), to perpetuate and expand that audience.

I see the same effect all the time in fiction. Innovative challenging books don't get published (or even picked up by agents), because the publishing industry is run by the kind of people who are frightened and offended by such books. Which means the audience for those books become only those lucky enough to be exposed to older, denser, more innovative fiction - which invariably shrinks.

ghaff 11 hours ago|||
You've had this fragmentation of attention. Many of the main computer magazines had essentially destination columnists whether writing under their own name or a pseudonym--which periodically passed to a new writer (which in Cringely's case was a matter of some controversy at one point). The latter were often written in a sort of gossipy style intended to make the reader feel that they had an inside view of a company or an area of technology.

It was a different time.

postalcoder 15 hours ago|||
Om too. Bad year.
genericacct 14 hours ago||
Was going to say exactly this. They were the most independent of thinkers in the industry
dhosek 20 hours ago|
I remember religiously reading his Infoworld columns back in the day.
asmodeuslucifer 19 hours ago||
I followed his column, I seem to recall the last one was about helping his kid build a minecraft server.

I hope Leo Laporte and Steve Gibson cover his passing, they knew him.

twit dot tv

xbar 18 hours ago||
All of the early 90s were colored with his take on things.
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