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Posted by paveworld 1 day ago

Tell HN: Bob Cringely has died

I heard from a friend of the family that Bob passed away in his sleep early Saturday. Very sad news. Bob, who's real name was Mark Stevens, was an early employee of Apple and was best known for his PBS documentaries, especially "Triumph of the Nerds". He will be missed.
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Martin_Silenus 19 hours ago|
Yeah, "Triumph of the Nerds" was a wonderful adventure. Now, "Triumph of the Lamers" is taking over.

RIP

amelius 17 hours ago|
It is not a good time to be a nerd.
api 1 day ago||
I remember in the very early days of ZeroTier him stopping by our tiny coworking office in SoCal (we weren't scattered all over yet). He said it piqued his interest because it was "something that should have been built 10 or 15 years ago." (I'm paraphrasing. This was around 2015.)

He belongs to the old Silicon Valley. I wasn't there in those days and have never lived there, but I miss it.

It was back when SV was genuinely creative and largely positive in its attitude toward people and the future. It emerged from the ethos of places like SRI's "augmented human intelligence" lab and things like the Whole Earth Catalog and the Homebrew Computer Club.

Of course I'm well aware of the other origin story, the one that goes back to WWII and the defense industry. They're both true in different ways, but I think the ideas I mentioned above were the ones that came to dominate for a while.

I'd say until the mid-late 2000s.

I have this goofy speculation that the old Silicon Valley more or less went bankrupt in the dot.com crash in 2001. After that it was bought out and taken over by different interests with different goals. Probably bullshit, but it'd make a good novel plot or something.

JMiao 1 day ago||
Well said
georgemcbay 1 day ago||
> Probably bullshit

FWIW, there is truth to what you're talking about.

I lived in (Los Gatos for a while) and around (Marin County for a while) SV during parts of the mid to late 1990s (into the very early 2000s) and the culture there was tech focused in a much more pure way than what came later.

Idealist 80s-90s hacker culture kids mixed with some older progressive graybeard types. Lots of people who learned how to code on their own using C64s or Apple IIs as teens and followed that into tech careers and were just happy to make a living doing what they would otherwise do for free.

Toward the end of the original dot-com boom and especially after it that culture got scattered to the winds by the influx of the finance bro types who had no particular love for tech but for the fact that everyone then saw it as the way to get rich.

I'm sure there was a different SV before my time there, and probably also somewhat parallel to my time there (just in different bubbles) but the place that I imagine that you imagine did exist for a while, I saw it in person.

jakzurr 21 hours ago||
Internship in San Jose, 1991. Back when I thought I'd have a software career. Decades later, worked in every part of IT except software, but I don't think I'd want to change anything for the world. Met some amazing people.

Damn those were good days.

mrcwinn 1 day ago||
His documentary gave me a kind of access to Apple, a company I loved dearly as a kid, even as it was dying. Like WarGames, it seemed impossible to me all of its footage existed. I’m a stranger indebted. RIP.
ChrisMarshallNY 17 hours ago|
> even as it was dying

There was a lot of that, last century. Made being an Apple developer challenging. We would suffer torrents of abuse (the current Apple hate is almost quaint, compared to that).

I enjoyed his writing, but there was always a lot of showmanship and posturing, so it was hard to take seriously. For me, it was entertainment.

I'm quite sad to hear of his personal travails.

slater 1 day ago||
RIP.
anaaysampat 18 hours ago||
:(
k310 23 hours ago||
Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_X._Cringely

  Born Mark Stephens 
    January 28, 1953 (age 73)
    Apple Creek, Ohio, U.S.
JUST updated. I had 8 minutes left to edit this.

Died October 3, 2026 (aged 73)

wyclif 18 hours ago|
...and the edit wars begin.
k310 12 hours ago||
Help me out here. I visited Wikipedia to check if the post was real, in this post-truth era. Wikipedia is usually quick to update, but not this time. When it was updated, I had 8 minutes to update my post, which I did.

HN disables edits after one hour, which, in a world of "nothing but change," can make one look mighty foolish, and I have in the past asked for a post to be removed.

I am just puzzled why anyone would downvote a Wikipedia link. Maybe it's because Earth's magnetic poles are reversing. Maybe not.

frrrree 22 hours ago||
Oh no. RIP!!
louiem3 20 hours ago||
RIP
tclancy 1 day ago|
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